which to choose
i have narrowed down to 257 roberts, 6.5 creedmoor,or 264 win mag for my next rifle. I want a good deer gun, but also one that is good for long range shooting!
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Im not an owner of any 6.5's but alot of my friends swear by them. I have shot a few 6.5 284 that were easy on the shoulder and real accurate. I do own a 25-06 Rem and its one of my favorite deer and long range coyote getter. Im in the same boat you are, Im looking to have a 250 savage Akcley or 6.5 284 built but I just can't decide witch way to go. 0 -
w.lacoe---I have at lease 4 quarter bore's, and also that many 6.5's. They are both great caliber's. If your primary interest is in long range accuracy, go with the 6.5's (.264 Win. or 6.5 x .284)The B.C.'s on their bullet's is higher. But for most of us an accurate .25-06 is just as good in the hunting dept. Just for kick's and giggles---Find your self a balistic chart, and plot the curves for each of the cartridges you are interested in. The .264 win is at the top of the heap of those you mentioned. Probably a bit harder on meat than the others. Enjoy HAWKSHAW 0 -
I also currently own a model 70 in 25-06. very hard to find anything i would rather hunt with 0 -
I have quite a few 6.5s and am actually on my way to pick up a Ruger 77V in 6.5 Creedmoor. I'm putting a Weaver 36X on it, will use as a 300 to 600 yd target gun. Actually, I don't see much difference between the 260 Remington, 6.5 Creedmoor or 6.5-284 - I think each is within a few hundred FPS of each other. I have a 260 Remington barrel for my Encore and that combintion does very well out to 300 or so yards, but it's a fun gun and not a serious target rifle I think.
I think the main advantage of the 6.5 vs 25.06 is bullet selection. I reload for a few 25.06s, not a great selection of streamlined bullets to choose.
Since the 264 uses 6.5 bullets and is the fastest of the bunch I suppose that's a very good choice. Personally I don't think you can have one rifle that does equally well for target shooting and hunting. Target usually means big and heavy and a light trigger, hunting is mostly lighter and handier and an about 3 lb trigger.
With the choices given I'd like the 257 for hunting, although I doubt it makes any difference between the three, but the Creedmoor (in a heavy gun) would be my choice for target.0 -
Not sure how much velocity/trajectory/energy you are looking at/for but I recently purchased a sub MOA Weatherby vanguard in 257 Wby mag. Absolutely love it. Not that tough to get 3/4" groups behing 60 grains of IMR 7828 with 110 gr accubonds. Recoil is very mild. My thinking was that it is always easier to load down than wishing you had the capability to load up. Good luck.
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I'm a 264 fan myself, They are pretty versitile, and very effective with good 140gr bullets. Read some of Craig Bodingtons articles on the caliber.
W.D.0 -
It would seem to me that if you are considering those three cartridges, that you may want to expand your list of possibilities to include 25-06, .257 Weatherby, 6.5-06, and 260 Remington, to name just a few.
You are wise to consider the potential of the .264 caliber for long range applications due to the high ballistic coefficient of its heavier bullets. However, the difference in case size and ballistic capability between the .257 Roberts and the 6.5 Creedmoor on the low end, and the .264 Winchester Magnum on the high end, is quite substantial. The case size of the .264 Winchester Magnum is much larger than the other two, and its ability to push the heavier, high ballistic coefficient bullets fast is much better.
This is not nearly as much an issue for longrange target shooting when the distances are known exactly, and many shots are fired, including practice rounds. But for big game hunting at sometimes long, variable, or unknown shooting distances (unless using a rangefinder), I would favor the .264 Winchester Magnum or other magnums such as the .257 Weatherby.
I do not know why this is, but for some reason, game animals sometimes do not always stand and wait at known distances like paper targets do.0
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