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  • Ned Fall
    Please don't take offense but I have to ask this. Did you give the name exactly as it appears on the gun? I noticed at least three misspellings in your message and that makes me wonder if you got the name of the gun correct. The greeting is Hi and it's a shotgun, not a shootgun.
    If you could post a photo it would be a great help.
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  • Tailgunner1954
    BTW, any "real" gunsmith can make a firing pin

    Real, vs one that's just a "parts swapper" IOW a real gunsmith can build a rifle from a couple chunks of steel (and I know one that built a couple BPBR record setting receivers from 2 blocks of steel)
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  • bigjer
    yeah thanks for correcting my spelling along with my grammer althought an astoot abservation i did spell incorrectly * veritable helice* as it is on the reciever exact spot its writen is on the handel that is used to brake the gun open the serial number i believe is 514 its on the reciever , wood stock, barrel, trigers, triger gaurd, ect. ok still looking to find out some history as well as parts avalable, i do know a good gun smith can make anything , i need to know if this gun has any value before i buy a 500 doller firing pin????
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  • rsnyder55
    There used to be a shotgun game where the targets had propellers called helice.
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  • Hawk Carse
    Helice is also a brand of French shotgun.
    Last made that I can find before WW II.
    It is nice but not a super grade gun, the last mention of value I could find was $500 - $1500 depending on which model and how good condition.
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  • Ned Fall
    Sorry that I had to ask that question but sometimes we get correspondents here that don't know their butt from third base asking questions and you wonder if they are talking about a gun and in what language. I had one reference that came close to the name you gave but like the man said, "Close but no cigar". The name I have is Helvic and was used on a Spanish made gun. Again, sorry but I have nothing on the name you give. But don't give up just yet.
    We may be able to determine the country of origin for the gun. Take a look at the bottom of the barrels under the forearm (hand guard) for proof marks. European made guns will have them and American made guns won't. If there are the letters "ELG" in an oval with a crown over that, the gun was made in Belgium.If it has crossed halberds (spear/battle axe) or sepcters with a crown over that and letters in the intersections, the gun was made in England. Would it be possible for you to post a photograph of the gun?
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  • bigjer
    Thanks for everybody's help Here are some pics to help find out the history of this gun.

    [url][/url]http://s729.photobucket.com/albums/ww293/jerbear57/shotgun/
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  • captkirk3@dslextreme.com
    The only Thing I can find close is:
    HELVICE. Fab. D.Armes de Guerre de Grand Precision,Eibar Spain..and comes from the Book by Robert H. Balderson...Antique and Modern Firearms.Seventh Edition...If I can find any thing further, I'll let You know.......
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  • captkirk3@dslextreme.com
    Bingo! Go to Google and type in <Fab. D,Armes de Guere de Grand Precision, Eibar, Spain> Google will have more to say than You might believe...
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  • Hawk Carse
    That is more than I believe. Does it say why a "Helvice" made in Spain would have French proof marks and be trademarked "Helice"?
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  • captkirk3@dslextreme.com
    Unless you have a Copy of "The Standard Directory of Proof Marks" By Gerhard Wirnsberger,it can be very difficult to tell the differance between some proof marks from Europe......Letters, Crowns, Eagles, Lions, etc. were all used by different Countries and looked almost identicle...Feathers, Leafs, Quills, Axes, Stars, Moons, 1/4, 1/2. 3/4 and Full...can be confusing...We will help you where ever We can...But most likely it will have to be a Hands On to Read all the Proof Marks and Inspector Marks and Arsenal Marks...Etc...
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