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380 Automatic (Hungarian made?)

wcwireman
I have a chance to buy a 380 automatic, new in box with papers. Information on gun is as follows: K.B.I., Inc., Harrisburg, PA
Double Action Serial #N32257, with an elongated 6 sided figure and FEG inside the pattern. I think this gun was made in Hungary. I am seeking the dependability of the gun and the value as I would like to keep this gun for home protection. Any information is appreciated.
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  • rufe-snow
    KBI started importing/distributing Hungarian made pistols in the 80's. They are generally descent quality and function OK. They were never big buck items like the Beretta's or Walther's though. Even today you can buy similar ex Hungarian police pistols chambered for 9mm Makarov, made by FEG, for less the $200.
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  • beantownshootah
    quote:Originally posted by wcwireman
    I have a chance to buy a 380 automatic, new in box with papers. Information on gun is as follows: K.B.I., Inc., Harrisburg, PA
    Double Action Serial #N32257, with an elongated 6 sided figure and FEG inside the pattern. I think this gun was made in Hungary. I am seeking the dependability of the gun and the value as I would like to keep this gun for home protection. Any information is appreciated.


    What Rufe said.

    They're not too expensive (run about $200), and are fairly reliable.

    My take on them is that their small size makes them relatively good as a concealed carry gun, but the low-power round (.380ACP) is marginal for defense.

    One problem right now is that .380 ammo is scarce and expensive. So practicing with the gun may be costly.
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  • mark christian
    Decent quality pistols copied from the Walther PP, but lacking in the fit and finish (and the resulting high price). Beantown makes a very good point about the caliber; .380 has been some of the most difficult and expensive handgun ammunition to find for the past several months. The cost of a box of .380 these days is ridiculous and this makes the pistols using that Caliber less desirable...At least in my opinion. I'd look for a 9mm Makarov of some kind ahead of a .380, a caliber which is marginal for defencive use anyway and with the high price of ammo I just don't see it as a good choice right now.
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  • Grasshopper
    380 ammo is expensive now but what isn't. Its not like you are going to be shooting a few hundred rounds every month. The only problem I had with these pistols was the "TRIGGER PULL." Mercy, they were very heavy[B)]..imo...of course and your mileage will may vary..nambu
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  • MBK
    Ammo Price? Actually I have seen it available now for $18.95 a box. You will find the ammo.

    I have had one, and it worked just fine.
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  • nmyers
    Take a look at the CZ-82 AIM Surplus has for $220; it is in 9mm Makarov.

    Neal
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  • gary wray
    wcwireman...these Hungarian pistols are clones of the Walther PP and PPk. As mentioned, not the same quality but for what they are, decent value. The R63 is a PP clone, in a variety of different calibers, including 9mm Mark (which I prefer). The smaller R61 is a PPk clone and at least the ones that I have are prone to break a firing pin on a rather regular basis. I lucked out years ago when they were first imported and got a R61 that belonged to a Hungarian Comm Party member and has the Comm star over the top of the party crest on the slide. Great find! Typically these pistols come with numbered matching mags to the gun. Good shooting!
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  • Riomouse911
    I bought one years ago, and still have it. Decent gun, not as pretty as my ppk but still goes bang when I pull the trigger.

    I found Magtech 95 gr .380 for 17.99 a box locally, bought 4 boxes right away. (I have 3 .380's, ammo been hard to find, practice even harder with no boolits) Ammo is out there, you just have to look for it.
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