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.30 mauser ammo/reload??

Spartacus
I know where to get factory ammo from S&B and PRVI, but less and less places are carrying it, so i'm worried it might fade away like some other gun specific ammo has.
i know the 7.62 x 25 Tok ammo can be used, but some think its too hot for a 100 year old mauser broomhandle.
so how do i start reloading the .30 mauser (7.63 x 25)? can't fine anywhere to get the bullets, cases or moulds.
pretty sure that .308 bullets could be used, but most are too big/heavy. 85-100gr bullets is what is needed.
can .32 wsf be sized down?
any advice or leads w/b appreciated.
thanks


EDIT#1:
appreciate the input! and gunprofit, thanks for the links! i spent 15 minutes searching the buffalo site. nothing comes up for "7.63" except factory ammo. didn't think to search for .308 moulds, even though i knew you can use 'em.[B)] i guess i should have known they would have bullets and cases given they have the dies (Duh!!)they've also got great prices on factory 7.63, $20/50.
i had 300 rounds of .35wsl made by them a few yrs ago, great guys.
thanks again all!
tom
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  • p3skyking
    I started reloading it about 30 years ago before factory ammo again became common.
    The first thing you need to aquire is knowledge. Get Cartridges of the World and the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook. Read them.
    Next, aquire boxer primed brass. I used to get it from Dangerous Dave at the Old Western Scrounger, but lots of places have it now. Just look and inquire. Buy some Fiochii ammo as it's real good.
    Bullets were never a problem. I learned what bullet would work from the Lyman book and put it on want list all over. I soon had the mold to cast my own.
    Dies are available from everyone including RCBS and Lee.
    No need to use 7.62X25 since it can run hot and eventually break your gun. Just load to cycle the action and give decent ballistics since no one is fighting the Fuzzy Wuzzies anymore. [:)]
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  • beantownshootah
    Barring a life-or-death emergency, I wouldn't overload a 100 year old gun with 7.62x25. No need.

    I'd suggest just stocking up.

    Edit, Jonk, stupid me, I meant to link THIS for factory 7.63 ammo (not the other link):
    http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/7.63_Mauser.html

    Note that its only $15 per box, which translates into $0.30 per round.

    I guess it will depend a bit on what your time is worth, and how cheaply you can get your components, but at only thirty cents for loaded factory ammo in reloadable brass cases, it probably doesn't pay to buy unfired brass.

    http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/7_62x25.html

    I really don't think you can go wrong with stocking up on just about ANY type of ammo so long as you have the cash and space to do so.

    Ammo generally only goes one way in price. . .up. While it occasionally happens that older cartridges experience a renaissance, usually they just fade away, become scarcer and more expensive.
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  • gunprofit
    You can get cases made by Starline. Buffalo Arms has them in stock at .21 cents each.

    http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,5343.html

    RCBS and Lyman both make bullet moulds for 30 Mauser.

    http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,4945.html

    And if you want loaded ammo, it is still made by Fiocchi. It is priced around $35.00 for 50 rounds of ammo.

    http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,4180.html
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  • rsnyder55
    Midway has Starline at 1000/$182.

    I also believe you can form it from .223
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  • gruntled
    "Posted - 11/11/2009 : 1:54:41 PM

    Barring a life-or-death emergency, I wouldn't overload a 100 year old gun with 7.62x25. No need.

    I'd suggest just stocking up.

    http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/7_62x25.html

    I really don't think you can go wrong with stocking up on just about ANY type of ammo so long as you have the cash and space to do so.

    Ammo generally only goes one way in price. . .up. While it occasionally happens that older cartridges experience a renaissance, usually they just fade away, become scarcer and more expensive. "


    That is not Mauser ammo. The Mauser is 7,63 X 25 not 7,62. I get mine at the gun shows. They come in little blue boxes of 25 each. Ther is no brand name on the boxes just some type of symbol in a circle. I rarely shoot mine so even though I only have a couple of hundred rounds that will last me a very long time.
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  • jonk
    quote:Originally posted by beantownshootah
    Barring a life-or-death emergency, I wouldn't overload a 100 year old gun with 7.62x25. No need.

    I'd suggest just stocking up.

    http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/7_62x25.html

    I really don't think you can go wrong with stocking up on just about ANY type of ammo so long as you have the cash and space to do so.

    Ammo generally only goes one way in price. . .up. While it occasionally happens that older cartridges experience a renaissance, usually they just fade away, become scarcer and more expensive.


    That's the Tokarev ammo and is too hot for a Mauser.

    Dies and reloading supplies are available anywhere. Including right on gunbroker. :)
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  • Tailgunner1954
    IF your going to reload, and IF you can get Boxer primed Tok brass, than simply load the Tok brass to Mauser specs. The cases are the same, even though the pressure/loading is different.
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  • WWllVet
    As mentioned, yes you can form brass from 223 brass as noted in"The Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversions" by John J. Donnelly page 849.
    I have done it and it works fine. A bit time consuming but a heck of a lot cheaper than buying new brass, especially if you pick up used brass at the range.

    For GOD and COUNTRY

    Vet
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  • ikeda
    Why not just break down the Tokorev ammo. Then reload it with the same powder but with a 10/15% reduced charge? No need to worry about forming brass or finding bullets. Its not that much trouble. You add a step at the beginning, (pulling the bullets) but you skip several steps at the back end. You might need to resize the case necks to make sure you get good bullet tension, but you might not even need to do that.
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