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Bubba Jr.
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO POST A PICTURE? PLEASE? Without the picture, my request for info is kind of useless....

OK, I saw this at a garage sale the other day. WTH? I looks to be a palm gun of sorts....? The end screws off and it looks like you insert a single round in it, possibly a .32? Then with the black knob in your palm, you compress it and it would appear to fire at that point. I advised the guy to put it away, and let me find out what I can about it. So how about it? Does anyone have a clue? Is it legal? Should I forget that I saw it? Should I buy it?

Thanks GREATLY in advance!!
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  • Bubba Jr.
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  • rufe-snow
    Most of the Ruby type pistols I've run across over the years. Had manufacturers markings or trade name(s) marked on them. Also the grasping grooves on the rear portion of the slide were circular from being cut on a lathe. Since yours has neither of these characteristics it might be a pistol that was originally made somewhere in Asia, as a knock-off copy of a Spanish made Ruby?
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  • Hawk Carse
    It is indeed a Ruby, the Triple K magazine catalog lists 46 manufacturers of the type.

    Seems hard to reconcile an Asiatic copy with WW II capture papers and account.

    The MB shows this one was made by Martin Bascaran in Eibar who sold the type as the "Martian"

    The magazine appears to be a mismatch, ZC is Zulaica y Compania who used the "Royal" trademark. Lucky if it feeds.

    http://www.star-firearms.com/firearms/guns/izarra/index.shtml
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  • Bubba Jr.
    quote:Originally posted by Hawk Carse
    It is indeed a Ruby, the Triple K magazine catalog lists 46 manufacturers of the type.

    Seems hard to reconcile an Asiatic copy with WW II capture papers and account.

    The MB shows this one was made by Martin Bascaran in Eibar who sold the type as the "Martian"

    The magazine appears to be a mismatch, ZC is Zulaica y Compania who used the "Royal" trademark. Lucky if it feeds.

    http://www.star-firearms.com/firearms/guns/izarra/index.shtml


    Hi Hawk,

    I think you nailed it. The thing that threw me was the serrations on the slide. All the pictures I have seen, show the grooves cut in an arc or what looks like the tool was lifted from the slide at the ends of the cut to make a ramp-like end to the cut, where these grooves were a simple straight cut. But with all the different manufacturers, I'm sure this was one of the variations.

    As to the magazine working with the pistol, I know my FIL used it on occasion in the early 50's, so it must work. I found the following in the web page you listed.
    Do not use the magazine floorplate for identification, as these seem to have been commonly mixed (the floorplate identifier in the photo is accurate, and is shown as its a good photo). Thanks again for your help and also for the website.

    I was dubious about the quality of the pistol, and so I had no intention of shooting it. I'm sure the value is negligible also, but it is a memento of my FIL's service in the Army as a Staff Sgt in the European theater as a commander of a Greyhound reconnaissance vehicle.
    He landed on Omaha beach the 2nd day of the invasion, and fought his way through France, Belgium, and eventually into Germany. He was in 3 major battles including the Battle of the Bulge.

    He never said much about the war, but if I asked him a specific question and we were alone, he would recount some of the horrors he went through and the hardships of living for months outside with out a bath or clean clothes. He was truly one of the "Greatest Generation".

    My father also served in the European theater, in Italy. He landed in Anzio, and said that by the end of the second day half of his outfit was dead. After spending a month in the hospital, he was moved to the rear and given a desk job and remained in Italy until 1946.

    I would like to give a salute to both of these brave men for their service to our country on this Veteran's Day.
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  • nmyers
    I would not say value is negligible. History buffs pay good money for documented war trophies such as this.

    Neal
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  • Bubba Jr.
    quote:Originally posted by nmyers
    I would not say value is negligible. History buffs pay good money for documented war trophies such as this.

    Neal


    Hi Neal, I should have said that "it's value is much more sentimental than monetary". I would never sell it, so it's a moot point as to the value. Thanks for letting me clarify that statement.[:)]
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