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Winchester Model 70 25 WSSM

brianmcmillen@tds.net
I am looking at maybe buying a used Winchester Model 70 rifle in a 25 WSSM caliber. As a guess the gun is 2 or 3 years old, its a black synthetic stock and forend and a stainless steel barrel. The barrel is not fluted or anything. I have a Model 70 in a 30-06 that is black synthetic from 2002 and this 25 WSSM is a newer style finish, pretty sharp looking little gun. Was hoping someone would know an approximate value, its in mint condition from what i can tell, I think the guy wants $400.00 bucks for it, doesnt seem too unreasonable, is that average, high, or low? Thanks for the advice!
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  • duckhunter
    Bargin. Last made 2006. I think.
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  • brianmcmillen@tds.net
    UPDATE- looking on Gunbroker under Winchester Model 70 it appears that this rifle would be an Ultimate Shadow, it has the style of grips on the stock and forend, kind of a two tone.
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  • brianmcmillen@tds.net
    quote:Originally posted by duckhunter
    Bargin. Last made 2006. I think.
    Yeah, the auction I found is "new-old stock" and the box is dated August, 2006, I'm guessing you're dead on!
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  • tsr1965
    I have one identical to it. I put a Nikon 4.5-14x40 Buckmaster on it with a Mil-Dot reticle. I was a FFL at that time and got it for $420.00 new(that is dealer cost, and it was a fire sale. Regular dealer was 650.00). It was a POS when I got it. When I took it out of the stock to prep it, the bedding epoxy came along with it. I fixed that with some Brownell's Steel Bed, and pillars for the tang, and action lug bolts. I made sure the barrel was free floating, and adjusted the trigger properly.

    The 25 WSSM, is near 25-06 performance. I have harvested deer with it over 300 yards, and as close as 25 yards. It is among my very favorate rifles for deer. You might consider, that if you do get it, you might want to buy a bunch of ammo, and brass if you hand load...not sure how long this round will be with us, as it is not real popular...but I love mine.

    Yes that is a fair price if it has not been abused by firing it dirty or hot.

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  • sandwarrior
    The one you're talking about is probably a Shadow, Super Shadow, or Ultimate shadow. The difference is in the black synthetic stock. The Shadow is as plain jane as it gets. The Super Shadow has various grips molded into the stock. The Ultimate shadow, the grips are all rubberized. A couple more models this might be but not sure by the sounds of your description if these are them. They are the Stealth, Stealth II and Coyote/Stealth lite. They have the beavertail flat bottom fore-end and the stock itself is made of Kevlar/carbon fiber composite, like you see the McMillan/HS Precision type stocks made out of. They are a lot stiffer. The coyote and stealth lite have vents cut in the fore-end and the stock is cut out some to lighten things up and the barrel has the lightening grooves {edit: fluted...couldn't think of the word just then}. It saves a couple pounds, so to some it's worth it. I never found the cartridge to be hard kicker either so the lighter stock doesnt hurt that way at all. In fact the Super Shadow I had in 25 WSSM didn't kick bad and it was lighter.

    If you decide to get this, and you plan to reload (I recommend you do for that price), watch the upper end loads. The cartridge has a very pronounced pressure curve at the top end.

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    quote:Originally posted by skyfish
    The price isn't bad, some may be trying to get rid of these as they are not the most popular. I like mine, very easy gun to carry and hunt with, mine is the browning, have taken several deer with it last two years. Recoil is light for that light of gun. It is amazing that when hunting you never feel recoil, but the range is different.


    This is unfortunately true. These got a whole lot of great press...followed by ten times as much bad press. By the same gun-writers no less!
    Also, unfortunately, I did a little bit of work with the .223 and .243 and felt at the time they weren't enough improvement over what was out there already. Well, as some of the newest powders to hit the market have come out they give better results than what we previously could achieve. That and starting to see some 'specialty/custom guns' in these as well. I regret that I voiced my opinion that the .223 and .243 weren't up to snuff. They are. As well as the 25 WSSM. It's a great cartridge and like many before it doesn't deserve to slip into forgotteness because some gun-writer doesn't know his @$$ from a hole in the ground.
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  • skyfish
    The price isn't bad, some may be trying to get rid of these as they are not the most popular. I like mine, very easy gun to carry and hunt with, mine is the browning, have taken several deer with it last two years. Recoil is light for that light of gun. It is amazing that when hunting you never feel recoil, but the range is different.
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