.30-06 Factory loads...??
I need a recommendation for readily available ammo for my new (to me) Rem. 742 Carbine. I will not be hunting with it, and want something to use as anti-personnel.
I'm thinking that I want the flattest shooting cartridge available, expanding round. Not Accelerators.
Cost is immaterial.
The rifle will have my old Redfield Widefield 2- 7 scope on it.
May I please have your suggestions ??
Thank you.
Doug
I'm thinking that I want the flattest shooting cartridge available, expanding round. Not Accelerators.
Cost is immaterial.
The rifle will have my old Redfield Widefield 2- 7 scope on it.
May I please have your suggestions ??
Thank you.
Doug
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Hard to beat the plain old Rem 150 PSP Corelokt for general use. One of the Hornady loads with the SST would be a little flatter trajectory. Probably should not use the LightMags. In my experience they over drive the action and are hard on the works. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
I need a recommendation for readily available ammo for my new (to me) Rem. 742 Carbine. I will not be hunting with it, and want something to use as anti-personnel.
I'm thinking that I want the flattest shooting cartridge available, expanding round. Not Accelerators.
Cost is immaterial.
The rifle will have my old Redfield Widefield 2- 7 scope on it.
May I please have your suggestions ??
Thank you.
Doug
IMO, doesn't matter much.
For military use, the Hague convention requires jacketed ball ammo. So in that context, that's what you have to use.
Outside of that, you could use anything you like. I wouldn't get too hung up on ammo type since any torso hit with ANY 30-06 round will make an absolutely devastating wound in a human at "normal" ranges (eg inside 300 yards).
The only thing I'd say is stay away from super-light "varmint" type rounds. Any medium weight or heavy round should work fine (IE look for something at 150 grains bullet weight or higher). If its good enough for a deer, it should work great for defensive use.
Black Hills, Corbon, Federal, Winchester. . .they all make rounds that could work fine, and I think any of their premium offerings could work for your purpose. [Edit, Remington, Hornady, etc. . .again. . .these are fine. All of these things are going to deliver a 150+ grain bullet at 2600+ fps, for 2000+ft-lbs of energy. . .OUCH]
If you have to differentiate further, I'd consider range. If you think you are going to act as a sniper and have to take a several hundred yard shot, then ACCURACY is going to be your prime consideration in choosing ammo (not necessarily bullet design). Picking a round is going to require you to test your particular gun with different types to see which rounds deliver the best accuracy. In *general* heavier bullets tend to be more effective at longer ranges, but I think ultimately accuracy trumps that.
Lastly, I think how you have the gun set up is as important as the exact round. Make sure that the gun is reliable with your chosen ammo (Remingtons can have sticky chambers and not run right). Certainly a 2-7x scope could work great for general purposes from close range to sniping. But depending on what distances and context you think you might be using this, you might want to opt for a more reliable and simpler fixed power (eg 4x) sight, or even a dot sight for close distances.0 -
I would find out what load your rifle prefers as any 30-06 hit will cause a lot of trauma.
My rifle prefers 180gr bullets and groups the tightest with this particular load. Any heavier or lighter bullet weight and the groups start to open up. This is primarily based on the twist of the barrel on your rifle.0 -
Winchester 147 gr FMJ 30.06 will hit at about at about 1,800 ft. lbs. at 300 yards. (3,000 at muzzel). How big are these varmits? 0 -
I'm thinking that I'd like to be able to make center mass hits out to 700 yards.
I don't consider that to be "sniping" range...or maybe the nearest side of the envelope.
It's been a long time since I've had a good .30, so I'm really not up to speed.
Are there any websites that analyze factory loads ??
Also, I definitely want to use expanding ammunition. I'm not bound be any of the Geneva protocols.
Thank you.
Doug0 -
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
I'm thinking that I'd like to be able to make center mass hits out to 700 yards.
I don't consider that to be "sniping" range...or maybe the nearest side of the envelope.
It's been a long time since I've had a good .30, so I'm really not up to speed.
Are there any websites that analyze factory loads ??
Also, I definitely want to use expanding ammunition. I'm not bound be any of the Geneva protocols.
Thank you.
Doug
Try this one
http://www.shootingtimes.com/ballistics/ballistic-tables/0 -
hey doug,
winchester ballistic silvertip is what you want. here's a link for cabelas, but don't buy yet, i have a box around here somewhere that i dont need (too hot for my garand)just have to find it.
tom
http://www.cabelas.com/p-0063897212992a.shtml0 -
1 At 700 yards you must know the range and the trajectory for any given bullet. There is no magic bullet that shoots "flat" that far.
2 I don't know if I have ever seen a 742 that I would call a 700 yard gun under the best of conditions.
2 Just what personnel are you planning on anti-ing, anyhow?0 -
1) I know.
2) I'm looking for bullet performance here. I don't think the firearm is as intrinsically accurate as a Garand. I could make good 600 yard hits with a Garand.
3)Varmints.
Doug0 -
quote:Originally posted by tplumeri
hey doug,
winchester ballistic silvertip is what you want. here's a link for cabelas, but don't buy yet, i have a box around here somewhere that i dont need (too hot for my garand)just have to find it.
tom
http://www.cabelas.com/p-0063897212992a.shtml
Email me and I'll send the money.
Thank you.
Doug0
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