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CZ 75 vs CZ 75 B???

leeblackman
Can anyone tell me if there is any other differences between the CZ 75 and the CZ 75 B other than the spur hammer vs the round hole hammer?

Also I only see two CZ 75 (not B) models on gunbroker, one is $375 the other is over $1000. What kinda price should I be looking at for an original CZ 75.

Any other info would be much appreciated. On one guys auction he mentioned his CZ 75 is a second generation import or something like that? I have know idea what the difference would be, kinda seems like maybe just an upsale to me, but if someone knows better please tell me.
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  • leeblackman
    Heck, I should have ran a search before posting this. I already answered all my own questions from previous posts. Should have figured I wasn't the first collector to venture to a Pre "B" CZ 75.

    Well at least let it be known I'm looking, so if you were thinking about posting yours for an auction nows a great time to do so ;)
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  • Laredo Lefty
    I have a CZ 75 BSA. Its the single action version for cocked & locked carry. They are well built, reliable and accurate. If you get one, I doubt you will be dissapointed.
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  • beantownshootah
    quote:Originally posted by leeblackman
    Can anyone tell me if there is any other differences between the CZ 75 and the CZ 75 B other than the spur hammer vs the round hole hammer?

    Also I only see two CZ 75 (not B) models on gunbroker, one is $375 the other is over $1000. What kinda price should I be looking at for an original CZ 75.

    Any other info would be much appreciated. On one guys auction he mentioned his CZ 75 is a second generation import or something like that? I have know idea what the difference would be, kinda seems like maybe just an upsale to me, but if someone knows better please tell me.


    First of all, "Pre-B" CZ-75s, while not rare in a global sense (there are a gazillion of them across the planet, including Europe, Africa, etc) are fairly scarce WITHIN THE USA, since they couldn't legally be directly be imported from Czechoslovakia during the cold war. That's why you are having trouble finding any for sale; most of the ones in the country from that era were brought in via "gray market" (see below).

    The relative scarcity means these tend to go for a little more than similar CZ-75Bs. No way would I pay $1000 for one, but $375 seems like a good price if the gun in question is in good shape.

    Other than the "made in Czechoslovakia" label (as opposed to "Czech Republic" on the post cold-war guns), and the spur vs. round hammer, you mentioned, there is one major difference:

    Edit: Oh yeah, the older ones have a rounded profile trigger guard, while the new ones have a squared off trigger guard.

    The "pre-B" CZ-75 LACKS the firing pin block safety. Since the CZ-75B trigger action acts to raise the firing pin block safety against spring tension, it slightly degrades the trigger pull.

    Note that the original CZ-75 allegedly has an "inertia" firing pin making it drop safe. In theory, if you dropped a loaded one on its muzzle, the firing pin could move and set off the gun, but in practice, its supposed to be too light to actually set off a round that way. No. . .I'm not going to test this.

    Here is my personal CZ-75 ("pre B"). . .and yes, its actually MA compliant, making it a rare legal variant of a rare gun! The gun has been customized with fine front and backstrap grip checkering and a bobbed hammer, before I got it.

    I believe it was imported into the country that way. In speaking with the CZ-75 gurus, the history of the gun that I've managed to piece together is that it was probably imported from Czechoslovakia to West Germany by the Frankonia company prior the fall of the wall. In Germany it was customized, then exported as a sporting arm to the USA in the early '80s.

    This is my absolute personal favorite "service" type gun. It probably has the best grip of any double-stack steel service auto, and the trigger action is great. Crisp single action (though admittedly NOT as good as a tuned 1911), and smooth double action.
    I've put at least 1000 rounds through it, without a single failure of any kind, and I'm actually going to take it out shooting tomorrow.

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  • leeblackman
    Oh man thats pretty.

    Yea, I'm already a CZ fan. I'm on my second CZ P01. My first I lost to my ex. But they are a great gun. I really want a pre b. I'm probably gonna bid on the one, I just gotta call around and find a gun dealer with a reasonable transfer fee.
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  • beantownshootah
    quote:Originally posted by leeblackman
    Oh man thats pretty.

    Feels and shoots as nice as it looks, IMO.

    Put 6 mags through it today (and 100 rounds through my Mosin rifle. . .my shoulder still hurts [;)]). The slide within frame design makes this a very accurate gun. I wouldn't call it match quality, but I was having no problem hitting a 1 inch square at 7 yards with the stock fixed sights.

    I should add that one problem common to the "Pre-B" guns is that the usual finish is some sort of black enamel that chips pretty easily. If you can get a chrome-finished one, I'd go for that.

    I don't get a chance to shoot this nearly as much as I like, but I figure sooner or later, I'll probably have to have the slide refinished. If so, I'll try to go for a gloss black finish to replicate the original factory one (eg maybe duracoat, or some such).
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