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BandR Firearms
can someone give me an approximate value?

Winchester Model 1912, Nickel Steel, 20 GA, Full

Thanks,
Brett

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  • we_dig_it
    Has the ejection port been opened up?
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  • BandR Firearms
    yes. mechanically the gun is in perfect condition. why do you ask?
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  • we_dig_it
    Well, for me, I wouldnt pay as much for it. It has been altered. Nothing wrong with that if its bought for a shooter. Also looks like the wood has been refinished. Where I live that gun(unaltered) would bring 300 to 400 tops. Also recoil pad not original to gun.
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  • Bert H.
    $350... little (if any) original finish on the receiver frame, and the butt stock and the recoil pad are not factory original.
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  • GuvamintCheese
    Its a field grade (thats the lowest grade), but its a 20 ga. (they did'nt make as many as 12ga.). Your gun has been used (like they should be!), and has had the stock cut for a non factory recoil pad. Great piece of history and a great gun.

    Hey Bert....what makes the butt stock non-original??? I dont see it.
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by cartod
    Hey Bert....what makes the butt stock non-original??? I dont see it.


    It has been refinished.
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  • MIKE WISKEY
    just to mention. this is chambered for 2 1/2" ammo.
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by MIKE WISKEY
    just to mention. this is chambered for 2 1/2" ammo.


    Apparently it isn't now... see the second and third posts in this string.
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  • BandR Firearms
    quote:Originally posted by Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by MIKE WISKEY
    just to mention. this is chambered for 2 1/2" ammo.


    Apparently it isn't now... see the second and third posts in this string.


    yeah i'm not too sure what was ment by "the ejection port has been opened" i thought he was asking if the gun was in working order. does this mean something else? i'm not a shotgun guy.
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by BandR Firearms
    quote:Originally posted by Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by MIKE WISKEY
    just to mention. this is chambered for 2 1/2" ammo.


    Apparently it isn't now... see the second and third posts in this string.


    yeah i'm not too sure what was ment by "the ejection port has been opened" i thought he was asking if the gun was in working order. does this mean something else? i'm not a shotgun guy.


    Yes, it does mean something... specifically, all of the early production Model 1912 20-gauge shotguns were chambered for a 2-1/2" shell versus the now standard 2-3/4" shell. Winchester used the short 2-1/2" chamber until circa 1927, when they switched to the 2-3/4" chamber. It was common practice to send the older guns back to Winchester to have the chamber and ejection port opened up for the longer shell length. If Winchester did the work, you should find "2 3/4" stamped on the bottom of the receiver frame just beneath the serial number. If the gun is not marked anywhere with "2 3/4", it either still has a 2-1/2" chamber, or it was modified outside of the factory if it will properly chamber and eject a 2-3/4" shell.

    In the case of your gun, it would be more beneficial to the value if someone did open up the chamber and ejection port, as in its current condition, it is purely a "shooter".
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