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Was this a new case when designed or an adaptation of another design?

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  • CapnMidnight
    Totaly new concept, as far as U.S. arms makers are concerned.
    W.D.
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  • Tailgunner1954
    Technicaly, it's the offspring of the 7mm Mauser round (note they both have a 12mm head diameter), but as stated above it was a new design for the US.
    Remember we had just finished the Spainish-Americian war, and had found that the Mauser designed rifles and cartridge kicked the 45-70 and 30-40's butt (only the "elete" troops had the Krag, the majority were still packing Trapdoor Springfields). Fortunatily, for us, this was primarly a naval war.
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  • gary wray
    Sage1....as Tailgunner1954 has mentioned, the shock of our forces taking over 1400 men KIA/WIA in one July, 1898 day going up San Juan and Kettle Hills in Cuba against Spanish soldiers armed with the great 7mm Mauser, well, showed our military that we had to do something better than the old Trapdoor and the newer, but still outmoded (and non-US designed) Krag. That study led to to 30-03 in 1903 and then rather quickly (for the military!) in 1906 to the updated 30-06. It also led to the US purchasing the rights to produce the Paul Mauser bolt action in our famous Springfield 1903, which was originally calibered in the 30-03. Teddy Roosevelt and his swashbuckling ways got all the press in the "splendid little war" but the real news was the how the 7mm Mauser changed American military history (and is still to this day a great round IMHO!) Good shooting!
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  • Hawk Carse
    I think the .30-03, .30-06, and Springfield rifle are based a lot on Not Invented Here and Longer, Lower, and Wider attitudes.
    Although the round and the rifle have a lot of Mauser characteristics - we paid Mauser royalties on action, ammo, and stripper clip right up to WW I - the in house designers had to make the gun a little different and the cartridge a little bigger.
    We would have been at least as well off to pay a little more license money and built straight Mausers in the hypothetical 7.62x57 (.30 x 2 1/4")caliber.
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