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German Rifle

neisman
Hi
Please forgive my ignorance but I know nothing about guns and now have been put in charge to sell an old german rifle. If you can give me any advice I will greatly appreciate it. It is a double barrel rifle with a scope the markings are 616xx Hubertus Suhl Dural on the barrel in a circle it reads flussstahl kruppfssen with an x in the middle and on top it reads schrot. It is very ornate with what looks to be hand carved silver and gold. There is a carving of rabbits a lab chasing birds and an elk.
Thank You
Sherri
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  • neisman
    I have this ANKARA 1935 I think its a German rifle. It says GEM 88 It has no Caliber stamped on it. It has a crescent over AS.FR and a star and a T C over the crescent. Could someone tell me about this rifle?[:)]
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  • Spider7115
    German training rifle. Is this the same rifle?

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=134517353

    kraft durch freude means "strength through joy".
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  • p3skyking
    Lots of .22 DSM's had their stocks cut down by Americans and yours did too. They were made to be like a K98k in overall look and feel.
    I forget why the muzzles are oversized, but all the Nazi BB guns are like that.
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  • Spider7115
    Apparently, the seller of the one I mentioned above made an inquiry here:

    http://warrelics.eu/forum/firearms-ordnance/j-g-anschutz-4mm-buscher-sportmodell-nurnberg-germania-waffenwerk-ag-zella-mehlis-9652/

    Responders stated value of $800-$1,000 although the querent put it up for $4,900 hoping a sucker would stumble across it.
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  • p3skyking
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    Apparently, the seller of the one I mentioned above made an inquiry here:

    http://warrelics.eu/forum/firearms-ordnance/j-g-anschutz-4mm-buscher-sportmodell-nurnberg-germania-waffenwerk-ag-zella-mehlis-9652/

    Responders stated value of $800-$1,000 although the querent put it up for $4,900 hoping a sucker would stumble across it.


    Yeah, a thousand is the upper end of the value. That guy's dreaming or thinks people are stupid.
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  • rufe-snow
    It's whats called a Zimmerstutzen, i.e. indoor target rifle. It was made by J.G. Anschutz who is a famous manufacturer of quality rifles. Anschutz survived the war, and is still in business.

    Kraft durch Freude, (Strength Through Joy), was the name of the nazi organization who organized leisure activities for people.

    The small cartridge it fired was only primer powered, firing a small lead ball. Full length rifling wasn't required for a target no more then 30 feet away.
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  • neisman
    Thanks guys.

    I had guessed that it was made while Germany was still prohibited from having armed forces.
    I figured that the bore got larger to cut down on muzzle volocity for indoor shooting.

    Regards, Karl
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  • fordsix
    the germs used them in beer hall shooting events or parlor guns
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  • beantownshootah
    I note that the seller has lowered the asking price from $4990 to $2995.

    So he's getting a bit closer to the probable true market value.

    Assuming no sucker comes along, and he actually wants to sell it, I'd expect further reductions in the asking price down the road.

    Pretty interesting gun, regardless.
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