Winchester 1892
I received a model 1892 in 38wcf from a friend who passed away recently. Very smooth lever action, octagon barrel, full magazine, solid frame, metal crescent butt plate, lots of scratching on the wood, the finish on the receiver is good, the rifle could use some good cleaning overall, manufactured in 1897. Any idea what this is worth?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
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i am building a winchester 1892 and have an antique receiver. how can i tell the calibur of this receiver? i had a spare 25-30 1892 round barrel and it fits on the receiver. please educate me a little so i know what parts to buy to finish this project. thanks 0 -
I have cleaned enough to discover the letters under the receiver.
They are JRACO and nothing else. No numbers above or below these mystery letters.
This gun has an octagon shaped barrel and no rings to hold the front grip to the barrel or vice versa.0 -
Also, I do not have money to pay for a serial number search. There should be plenty of information for me to find an answer to this firearm.
I cannot find anywhere anything that explains these letters unless number are with them (in this case, no numbers are with the letters)0 -
quote:Originally posted by viprdude
I have cleaned enough to discover the letters under the receiver.
They are JRACO and nothing else. No numbers above or below these mystery letters.
This gun has an octagon shaped barrel and no rings to hold the front grip to the barrel or vice versa.
Are you sure it isn't WRACO which would be Winchester Repeating Arms Company? I don't have any idea what JRACO is. Also, what is the exact barrel length from the muzzle to the face of the bolt? Are you sure it isn't a cut down rifle?0 -
It is either a factory "Short" Rifle, or a cut-down Sporting Rifle. Trapper Carbines were made with a round barrel only, and they will have a saddle ring the vast majority of the time.
The bottom of the receiver is stamped "WRACO" versus "JWRACO", and the stamping was put there by Winchester when they refinished the gun back near the turn of the century. Without the serial number, there is no possible way to research it through the Cody Firearms Museum. You might try removing the butt stock and examining both sides of the upper and lower tang for any markings (it is remotely possible that the serial number was transferred to the tang before it was obliterated on the receiver frame.
Edit: For those who have not ever seen one, here is a picture of what the "WRACO" stamp looks like...
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quote:Originally posted by viprdude
Also, I do not have money to pay for a serial number search. There should be plenty of information for me to find an answer to this firearm.
I cannot find anywhere anything that explains these letters unless number are with them (in this case, no numbers are with the letters)
Madis briefly discusses it in his tome "The Winchester Book".0 -
I used my cell phone camera 1280*960 resolution (still bad quality) for pictures.
I thank you very much for the speedy response.
I read on Wikipedia (not the best source I know) the opposite of what you said concerning the Trapper carbines and the barrels. (Wiki said that most trappers were octagon shaped vs what you said, but I believe you more so than Wikipedia, haha)
I can see the W now after having you confirm it, whoever stamped it way back did not get all of the W on there and I can see the O was almost double stamped.
I need to know how to take this firearm apart so I can see if it has a serial number. I am posting pictures soon so please stay tuned!0 -
I would say the barrel length is 15 and 3/8 inches. I would not even give 1/16th of an inch off of that measurement. 0 -
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Are you sure about the measurement to the face of the bolt. I'm thinking if you are correct, this may be a problem? 0 -
I cannot tell if it is cut-down or not. I would believe I could tel the difference but then again I thought the letter W was a J (to be fair, it looks like a J in the picture if I was not provided with the reference picture)0 -
quote:Originally posted by rsnyder55
Are you sure about the measurement to the face of the bolt. I'm thinking if you are correct, this may be a problem?
Yes, I measured three times and I am positive this is the measurement. Any explanations and responses are much appreciated!0 -
quote:Originally posted by viprdude
quote:Originally posted by rsnyder55
Are you sure about the measurement to the face of the bolt. I'm thinking if you are correct, this may be a problem?
Yes, I measured three times and I am positive this is the measurement. Any explanations and responses are much appreciated!
Did you include the portion of the barrel that is threaded into the receiver frame? If not, run a cleaning rod down the bore until it bottoms out on the bolt face (action closed), mark & measure it.
An original Winchester Model 1892 barrel would be either 15" or 16" (+/- 1/8").0 -
quote:Originally posted by Bert H.
quote:Originally posted by viprdude
quote:Originally posted by rsnyder55
Are you sure about the measurement to the face of the bolt. I'm thinking if you are correct, this may be a problem?
Yes, I measured three times and I am positive this is the measurement. Any explanations and responses are much appreciated!
Did you include the portion of the barrel that is threaded into the receiver frame? If not, run a cleaning rod down the bore until it bottoms out on the bolt face (action closed), mark & measure it.
An original Winchester Model 1892 barrel would be either 15" or 16" (+/- 1/8").
When doing this method, it measured 15 and 7/8 of an inch.0 -
You may have to start a new thread (postings are limited to 10 replies) but is the magazine tube slightly longer than the barrel? It appears to be but it may just be the angle of your side-view picture. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
You may have to start a new thread (postings are limited to 10 replies) but is the magazine tube slightly longer than the barrel? It appears to be but it may just be the angle of your side-view picture.
Yes, this is correct. The magazine tube is slightly longer than the barrel.0 -
quote:Originally posted by viprdude
quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
You may have to start a new thread (postings are limited to 10 replies) but is the magazine tube slightly longer than the barrel? It appears to be but it may just be the angle of your side-view picture.
Yes, this is correct. The magazine tube is slightly longer than the barrel.
Based on that fact, I have to opine that your barrel has been cut down but Bert will have the final say.0 -
Thank you for the speedy response spider. I wish I could get a serial number for this firearm but that WRACO label has been torturing me.
I do not know how to disassemble this weapon so any help I can get on that would be greatly appreciated!0
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