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  • mailman785
    I am interested in a winchester 1897 riot shot gun 85 to 90 percent blue and stock marked L.A.P.D from about 1926 solid frame butt has shock pad not original butt plate and a lynan cutts cutts 705 F.C. My question is how bad do these things hurt the value and what would aproximent value
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  • BigLoop22
    mailman785,

    Hunt101 does not make it easy to find memebers, and to post photos, unless you know where to look! Here you go:

    1897_001.jpg

    1897_009.jpg

    1897_006.jpg
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  • mailman785
    thank you...
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  • Bert H.
    The gun in the pictures has very little factory finish remaining on the steel parts, and the slide-handle stock piece is not original. In the condition shown, it is a a $250 - $300 gun.

    Caution... it is not safe to shoot modern 16 gauge shells in that gun. It has a 2-9/16" chamber (3/16" shorter than modern shells), and was designed for lead-shot only.
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  • mailman785
    Thanks for all your info... would it be worth having this gun re-done
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  • rhmc24
    Worth has a lot of different meanings, to different people, etc. You can spend couple hundred dollars to upgrade the appearance and you will have a gun worth only a little more than it is now. Looking better may be 'worth' it to you.

    On the other hand if you can sell it for $250 and put 250 with that you can probably find a pretty nice 12 ga, with a bit of original finish on it, well worth that.
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by mailman785
    Thanks for all your info... would it be worth having this gun re-done


    No, it would not (at least in my opinion). The cost to have it redone (a correct 3-screw slide handle and a reblue of entire gun) will cost you a fair bit more than the gun is currently worth, and in the end, you would still have a $250 gun.
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  • italstalyon
    I have one of these and it is not in this good of shape as far as the stocks. I ran across it in a pawn shop on the San Carlos Apache Reservation in 1970. It was on the rack and th 97 was the first shotgun I ever fired and as a boy I grew very fond of my neighbor's fine old shooter. Well on examining the gun I saw right off that the stock had been cut down for a small person. I'd say 4 or 5 inches were missing and so was the butt plate. I was still interested though as it turns out it was a Black Diamond Trap gun. Now before this gun passed on to me someone took the black ebony diamonds and rectangles out of the wood and left the holes. My question is would it be worth while to rework this gun or leave it as a momento?

    Thanks
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by italstalyon
    I have one of these and it is not in this good of shape as far as the stocks. I ran across it in a pawn shop on the San Carlos Apache Reservation in 1970. It was on the rack and th 97 was the first shotgun I ever fired and as a boy I grew very fond of my neighbor's fine old shooter. Well on examining the gun I saw right off that the stock had been cut down for a small person. I'd say 4 or 5 inches were missing and so was the butt plate. I was still interested though as it turns out it was a Black Diamond Trap gun. Now before this gun passed on to me someone took the black ebony diamonds and rectangles out of the wood and left the holes. My question is would it be worth while to rework this gun or leave it as a momento?

    Thanks



    Any $$$ you put in it would be a waste in my opinion. Even if you found somebody talented enough to properly restore it, the cost to do so would be prohibitive. Model 1897s are collectable, but they are not high dollar guns (there are a few exceptions, but not very many).
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