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Strange Winchester 52 Sporter

hpk
I have a 52 spoter that has a serial number 17XXX which would appear to be made in 1929. The sporters appear to have been first made in 1934. This gun has a half round and a half octagon barrel, with the octagon barrel being at the front site. It has the typical sporter stock, posts, and swivels, but does not have the hooded site. It also has flat scope base. Any idea as to if this was a specially ordered gun? I can e-mail pictures.
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  • He Dog
    Post your photos here. Here is how: http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=259294

    You will need to use a hosting site like Photobucket, but even I can do it. We are going to need to see this one.

    PLEASE!
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  • Hawk Carse
    Octagonal at the FRONT sight?

    We gotta see that, please look at the instructions for posting pictures.
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  • fordsix
    possible rebarrel of a rifle action
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by fordsix
    possible rebarrel of a rifle action


    Instead of saying "possible", I would say "most likely". Winchester did not ever make reverse 1/2 octagon barrels. Additionally, special order barrels were extremely rare for the bolt-action series of .22 caliber Winchester rifles.

    The odds of that barrel being original to the rifle is somewhere in the .0001% range... in otherwords, no Chance
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  • tsr1965
    That is a rebarreled action. Since the barrel channel in the 52's stock were all round, someone took an octagon barrel and rounded it...on the chamber end. That is a shame. But...I bet its a decent shooter.

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  • JohnnyBGood
    Just for the record in reference to a reversed part round/octagon barrel, on page 193 of The Winchester Book there is pictured a Model 1873 with a reversed round/octagon barrel. Madis writes in the caption to the photo that "Perhaps the factory workers wanted to see what the appearance would be, or perhaps someone ordered the rifle with the octagon and round parts reversed. Very probably this is a unique, one of a kind rifle."

    John
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  • tsr1965
    quote:Originally posted by JohnnyBGood
    Just for the record in reference to a reversed part round/octagon barrel, on page 193 of The Winchester Book there is pictured a Model 1873 with a reversed round/octagon barrel. Madis writes in the caption to the photo that "Perhaps the factory workers wanted to see what the appearance would be, or perhaps someone ordered the rifle with the octagon and round parts reversed. Very probably this is a unique, one of a kind rifle."

    John


    That wouldn't be the first time Mr. Midis was incorrect in his diagnosis, or text. Take a look at his serialization/date of mfg. listings. That should give one an idea of how much smoke and mirrors played a part in his studies and publications. But we all make mistakes.

    Best
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  • JohnnyBGood
    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    quote:Originally posted by JohnnyBGood
    Just for the record in reference to a reversed part round/octagon barrel, on page 193 of The Winchester Book there is pictured a Model 1873 with a reversed round/octagon barrel. Madis writes in the caption to the photo that "Perhaps the factory workers wanted to see what the appearance would be, or perhaps someone ordered the rifle with the octagon and round parts reversed. Very probably this is a unique, one of a kind rifle."

    John


    That wouldn't be the first time Mr. Midis was incorrect in his diagnosis, or text. Take a look at his serialization/date of mfg. listings. That should give one an idea of how much smoke and mirrors played a part in his studies and publications. But we all make mistakes.

    Best


    Your kind remarks about Mr. Madis are noted. Just so I can make a note for future reference, have you handled and inspected the Model 1873 in his book?

    "If we have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of the giants who have gone before us."

    John
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by JohnnyBGood
    Just for the record in reference to a reversed part round/octagon barrel, on page 193 of The Winchester Book there is pictured a Model 1873 with a reversed round/octagon barrel. Madis writes in the caption to the photo that "Perhaps the factory workers wanted to see what the appearance would be, or perhaps someone ordered the rifle with the octagon and round parts reversed. Very probably this is a unique, one of a kind rifle."

    John


    Hello John,

    That Model 1873 in Madis' book is not factory original. His prose "Perhaps" is the clue that he knew that it would not letter.
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  • hpk
    ok guys, not trying to start something here, just trying to find out if this gun is real. Will send pictures next week. Please send e-mail address if i can not post on site at hpkimmes@yahoo.com I will be home next Monday

    Thanks
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by hpk
    ok guys, not trying to start something here, just trying to find out if this gun is real. Will send pictures next week. Please send e-mail address if i can not post on site at hpkimmes@yahoo.com I will be home next Monday

    Thanks


    You did not "start" anything. Your Model 52 is not "real" with a reverse 1/2 octagon barrel, but we would still like to see pictures of it.
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