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Ok guys, I must be stupid .38 super ?

Mr. Friendly
I bought some 38 super +p winchester 130 grn fmj to use in the colt I just purchased. I can only get two rounds in the magazine, then it binds when I insert the third. The magazine isn't bent anywhere that I can see, and it will chamber one correctly if I feed it with the two in the mag. I haven't shot it yet just in case I somehow screwed up.

This is in a 60's colt 1911. TIA
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  • tsr1965
    Have you shot this pistol before? If so were you using 38 Super or 38 Colt Auto? What is the pistol marked? Just want to make sure you are not going to, or trying to shoot 38 Super in a 38 Colt Auto.

    Best
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  • rufe-snow
    Make sure the magazine isn't a unmarked mag made for the 9mm Luger. These have a spacer in the rear portion of the magazine well. From your description, this might be the problem.
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  • Mr. Friendly
    Nope, never shot it before, jsut bought it this week.

    Magazine is marked .38 super, just like the pistol.

    Guess it is just time to buy some new magazines [:D]
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  • SP45
    are the reloads or remanufactured rounds. try measuring the overall length of the ctg. if the bullet is seated out to far it will bind.
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  • Mr. Friendly
    quote:Originally posted by SP45
    are the reloads or remanufactured rounds. try measuring the overall length of the ctg. if the bullet is seated out to far it will bind.
    Factory loads.

    Turns out the spring is shot in the mag, and the follower was tilting and jamming.

    I used the spring from one of my 9mm magazines and it worked just fine.

    Thanks for the help!
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  • Spartacus
    tode,
    is it the original magazine for the gun? if it's from colt and defective they will replace it free. might even throw in an extra, all depends on how you word the letter.
    in the meantime, does the follower depress all the way into the mag with a wood dowel (or a butter knife)? if not, it's the mag.
    unfortunately, colt spot welds the base, so you have to drill out the welds to get inside.
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  • Mr. Friendly
    quote:Originally posted by tplumeri
    tode,
    is it the original magazine for the gun? if it's from colt and defective they will replace it free. might even throw in an extra, all depends on how you word the letter.
    in the meantime, does the follower depress all the way into the mag with a wood dowel (or a butter knife)? if not, it's the mag.
    unfortunately, colt spot welds the base, so you have to drill out the welds to get inside.
    It is factory colt mag. The follower depresses all the way down. The spring is just wayyy weak. I replaced it with a spring from my 9mm mag and all is fine.

    Thanks brother.
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  • givette
    quote:Originally posted by Todesengel
    quote:Originally posted by tplumeri
    tode,
    is it the original magazine for the gun? if it's from colt and defective they will replace it free. might even throw in an extra, all depends on how you word the letter.
    in the meantime, does the follower depress all the way into the mag with a wood dowel (or a butter knife)? if not, it's the mag.
    unfortunately, colt spot welds the base, so you have to drill out the welds to get inside.
    It is factory colt mag. The follower depresses all the way down. The spring is just wayyy weak. I replaced it with a spring from my 9mm mag and all is fine.

    Thanks brother.

    Sidenote: Spot welded magazine..how did you get to the spring? Is there a way in from the top? Thanks, Joe
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  • Mr. Friendly
    quote:Originally posted by givette
    quote:Originally posted by Todesengel
    quote:Originally posted by tplumeri
    tode,
    is it the original magazine for the gun? if it's from colt and defective they will replace it free. might even throw in an extra, all depends on how you word the letter.
    in the meantime, does the follower depress all the way into the mag with a wood dowel (or a butter knife)? if not, it's the mag.
    unfortunately, colt spot welds the base, so you have to drill out the welds to get inside.
    It is factory colt mag. The follower depresses all the way down. The spring is just wayyy weak. I replaced it with a spring from my 9mm mag and all is fine.

    Thanks brother.

    Sidenote: Spot welded magazine..how did you get to the spring? Is there a way in from the top? Thanks, Joe


    http://www.bobtuley.com/45/magazine4.htm

    Depress the follower and put something through the side of the mag to keep the spring depressed, tilt mag upside down, and pull follower out at an angle. Release spring and pull out as well
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  • perry shooter
    Hello Joe You can remove the spring and follower "out the top of a 1911 magazine" what you do is take an unsharpened pencil or wooden dowel . and a small pin or allen wrench press the follower down from the top with the pencil now slide the allen wrench into one of the holds in the side of the magazine just below the follower . now remove pencil . What you have done is kept the spring from expanding upward but freeing the follower just tip the follower and remove then slide the allen wrench out carefully so the spring will not hit you as it jumps toward the open top Mouth of the magazine . clean inside of magazine and replace any out of spec parts. . Remember magazines were made this way for 1911 for close to 75 years before the removeable bottoms . Like all gun items there is a down side and an up side to every design change. down side of removable bottom is when it hits you in the foot during a string of rapid fire at the National championships. [:(]
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  • CS8161
    Get yourself some Wilson or Chip McCormick magazines!
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  • 5mmgunguy
    Ditto on the Wilson magazines...but Colt should make good on a magazine that will work.
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  • Mr. Friendly
    quote:Originally posted by Chris8161
    Get yourself some Wilson or Chip McCormick magazines!
    I have them for all my .45's, but just bought this thing this week. Give me some time [:D]
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