Enfield No.4 MKII Scoped
Have an Enfield No.4 MKII rifle and wanted to use the Enfield No.4 MKI (T) scope mount on the rifle, should it mount the same as it would on the Enfield No.4 MKI, where can you get mount screws, since I have not been able to locate any?
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I'm in the process of doing the same and bought this repro mount & pads from Numrich Arms:http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=1047050&chrSuperSKU=&MC=
They do fit the No4 MkII fine, but they do not come with screws for the mounting pads. This is not a problem for me as the gunsmith with d & t the receiver, probably use 8-40 screws.
Is your No4 already drilled, pads mounted - exactly what screws are you trying to find?0 -
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
I'm in the process of doing the same and bought this repro mount & pads from Numrich Arms:http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=1047050&chrSuperSKU=&MC=
They do fit the No4 MkII fine, but they do not come with screws for the mounting pads. This is not a problem for me as the gunsmith with d & t the receiver, probably use 8-40 screws.
Is your No4 already drilled, pads mounted - exactly what screws are you trying to find?
No, not yet, what size screws do I need and how many?
Is there a schematic with the kit for what size drill and where exactly to drill on the receiver?
Where do you get the cheek piece?
What scope are you going to use?
Thank you for the help.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Juggernaut
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
I'm in the process of doing the same and bought this repro mount & pads from Numrich Arms:http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=1047050&chrSuperSKU=&MC=
They do fit the No4 MkII fine, but they do not come with screws for the mounting pads. This is not a problem for me as the gunsmith with d & t the receiver, probably use 8-40 screws.
Is your No4 already drilled, pads mounted - exactly what screws are you trying to find?
No, not yet, what size screws do I need and how many?
Is there a schematic with the kit for what size drill and where exactly to drill on the receiver?
Where do you get the cheek piece?
What scope are you going to use?
Thank you for the help.
Numrich Arms has the repro cheek pieces, cost about $30.00 and they're very well made. Takes a bit of fitting for the curve of the rest to mate with the top of the stock, but it's simple hand work.
The rings are 1" and I'm using an older 1950's production Bushnell Banner. It's 4X and has a matte baked on type finish that matches the Enfield's finish and a longish turret that looks different enough that it would belong on the rifle. I know most folks use the old steel Weavers and that's a good choice, this Banner is just a better match.
There are a total of 5 small screws - 3 on the front pad, 2 on the rear pad and as mentioned I'm going to have the gunsmith do 8-40 size drill & tap. This is a pretty standard US gun size, a bit thicker than the standard 6-48. Since your receiver isn't drilled & tapped, pick what you prefer.
I haven't found a whole lot of info out there on getting this done, it's been a learning as I go affair. I don't think it's all that difficult, but it seems that pretty much no one is undertaking this little adventure. The Shotgun News dated 21 Sept has an article on the Enfield sniper repros and a few good pictures, one shot shows the mount very well.
The large center hole you see in the rear pad of the mount isn't tapped. Unlike the front pad in which the center hole is tapped - because that pad is what the large screw on the front of the mount attaches to - the rear leg of the mount uses that large screw to attach directly to the receiver. So that very large screw passes through the center hole of the rear pad and is screwed into the receiver.
Shimming the pads allows some left & right adjustment in addition to the scope's internal adjustments. The pads are flat, the No4 receiver is flat - I don't think there's a whole lot that can go wrong left & right.
The "talent" required is ensuring the scope is vertically parallel to the bore and the screws drilled at the correct location - once those holes are drilled there's not a whole lot that can be done to adjust the mount.
The front mounting pad is round and pivoting it front & back adjusts the vertical pitch of the mount. It's just my layman's observation, but as I see it, the large center hole is drilled first. The rear pad is then placed on the receiver and the large rear screw turned down against the receiver, not too tight. Then front pad is placed up against the receiver (with mount attached) to adjust the pitch then holes drilled & tapped on the front and finally the rear.
There's probably other ways to do it, whatever the method so long as the mount & scope are vertically parallel to the bore I think everything will work well.0 -
Thank you again for all of your help dfletcher, it is much appreciated. 0
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