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  • perry shooter
    Hello thanks for sharing the pictures. The rifle looks to be of fairly high quality with the fancy trigger guard and double set trigger. The pistol is also IMHO a factory built piece because of the serial on the grip frame. I suspect FRENCH built . Will try to do some research.
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  • 1fisher
    The rifle looks like commercial version of a Steyr Kropatschek 1886. (At least that is what the bolt looks like to me.) The military version was chambered for a 8x60 Rimmed cartridge, so that may be a starting point.
    Beautiful rifle!
    I agree with perry shooter that the pistol looks a little too nice to be a hand-built piece. Is the barrel rifled, or a smoothbore? If it is rifled, I would say it is definitely a factory gun.
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  • rufe-snow
    The rifle appears to be a very well done, sportized Model 71/84 German Army Rifle. The original caliber is 11 X 60R mm, German Military Cartridge. Erfurt was the name of a German military arsenal.

    The pistol appears to be one of the South East Asian, village blacksmith jobs. Whole bunch of similar ones came back as souvenirs from Viet Nam. I use to own a couple way back when. Best be careful! If the barrel isn't rifled ,it could be considered as being a unlawful contraband firearm.
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  • beantownshootah
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    I can't way who built this either, but whomever did obviously had a bit of experience in building guns. It may be custom built, but its probably not "homemade" in the sense of being turned out in someone's garage.

    As Perry-shooter says, the serial number on the butt at least suggests that whomever built this was turning them out in quantity. (Or was using commercially manufactured frames to build them on).
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  • cwi555
    This piece has classic signs of factory production.
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    Number 3 and 4 are the seam edge of the stamped side plate, as well as the relief/alignment depression.
    Number 1 is a blow up of the headspace plate. Once the frame is made, it's a simple matter to remove a bit of material from an oversized plate to fit the gun and headspace it.
    Number 2 appears to be a crude ejector.
    This firearm was definetly not a hand made job. Some factory somewhere (albiet a small one) made that piece.


    quote:Originally posted by beantownshootah
    3897114530_c189a543bb.jpg
    3896331465_bd68900c44.jpg
    3896354369_374f24fa45.jpg

    I can't way who built this either, but whomever did obviously had a bit of experience in building guns. It may be custom built, but its probably not "homemade" in the sense of being turned out in someone's garage.

    As Perry-shooter says, the serial number on the butt at least suggests that whomever built this was turning them out in quantity. (Or was using commercially manufactured frames to build them on).
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