Chance to buy...take it or not
I was looking for a deer rifle for my son. Came across an interesting gun. Its a Sako L46 made in the late 40s. It is chambered for a 7mm round called the 7x33 Sako...never heard of it. The rifle looks like new. not even sure its been shot...guy says its a great deer round...he has about 1/2 dozen loaded rounds...doesn't look like its much of a deer round. Also asked about ammo at the local gun shop, they have never heard of it. Can you get ammo anywhere? Can you reform other brass? Head size looks really close to a 9MM just longer and bottleneck. Probably wouldn't be a good deer round but was thinking it would be fun if I can shoot it and the price isn't bad....500 dollars...includes a fixed 4 power German scope the name of which I can't remember.
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Go to the auction side and search for this rifle. There four for sale there. Look at completed auctions for ones sold.
Looks like the price is very right. Problem, as you realise is ammo.
Try www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Sako for some on the ammo.0 -
In condition stated with scope,,, buy it!...imo.nambu 0 -
5mmgunguy,
This cartridge is similar to the 7mm and 8mmKurz cartridge used by the Germans.
Note that this case is proportionately similar to the newer Wolfpup competition cartridge, especially the ultra short neck.
"The first civilian rifle bearing the Sako name was the L42 (Luodikko [rifle] model 1942) chambered for the 7x33mm Sako cartridge, prototyped in 1942, and commercial production started after WWII. Sako developed the 7x33 cartridge based on the 9x19 pistol cartridge, by making a longer case and "necking" the case down to 7mm calibre (7.21mm bullet diameter). This cartridge was designed for and well suited to capercaille and black grouse hunting, a popular sport in Finland, Sweden and Norway. The L46 was later denoted L461 "Vixen". The L461 has been very popular in Finland and Sweden, especially chambered for the .222 Remington cartridge and has an almost mythical status among aficionados."
"The 7x33mm Sako cartridge was created in Finland as a small game cartridge for animals such as the Capercaillie & Black Grouse. It is based on a 9x19mm Parabellum case that has been lengthened & necked down to accept a 7.21mm bullet. It utilizes a 5.1 gram bullet with a muzzle energy of approximately 2800 bar and muzzle velocities of between 720 and 800 m/s. The cartridge overall length is 44.30mm with a case length of 33.30mm & a base diameter of 10mm. The Bertram company of Australia makes brass for it."
"In 7x33 Sako, all the factory loads have been with 5.1 gram bullets,
pressures around 2800 bar, velocities around 720...800 m/s, now where
did I put the booklet with the detailed bullet data... cartridge total
length 44.30 mm, case length 33.30 mm, base diameter 10 mm, bottleneck
bends at 26.50 mm (dia 9.50 mm) and straightens at 29.12 mm (dia 7.80
mm)."
"The 9mm Winchester Magnum case, a tiny bit shorter than the .30 Carbine case, could be a source of similar wildcat conversions without all of the case trimming. For instance, after WW2 ended, Sako used a similar case for a small game round: the 7x33mm Sako. The Vihtavuori Reloading Manual claims it still has a small following in Finland. In the 1967 Gun Digest, Ken Warner mentions knowing of an Australian who had converted his Carbine to the Finnish cartridge. Judging from a photo in Jean Huon's Military Rifle and Machine Gun Cartridges, the Finns even experimented with the 7x33mm Sako case necked down for .224" projectiles. Prior to World War 2, the Hungarians experimented with a similar, but slightly shorter case necked to .30 caliber (7.65x30mm)."
http://www.midwayuk.com/apps/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?SaleItemID=506583
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Thanks guys, specially nononsense...they guy knows everything. Now all I need to do is order brass from Midway UK...they should ship to the USA...also noted it isn't cheap! 0
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