Weak womans auto
My wife likes the compact auto pistols but, she doesn't have the finger strength to pull-back my kel-tec 380 or bersa 380. Anyone found a compact that is weak in the spring or that has better knurling?
Thanks for any hints(besides muscling her up...lol)
Thanks for any hints(besides muscling her up...lol)
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might consider one of the tip barrel designs either beretta or taurus. 0 -
I assuming you mean she cannot cycle the slide? If so, have her try this:
Have her hold the gun in her strong hand, with her elbow tucked in tight to her side.
Hold the slide tight with her off hand.
Forcefully push the frame straight out away from her while still holding tight onto the slide...instead of trying to pull the slide back.
When the frame moves as far forward as it can, let go of the slide.
She has now cycled the gun.
I have taught hundreds of women this, and have never had one not be able to cycle any semi.0 -
Also pull back the hammer first and then rack the slide. You will see a very big difference. 0 -
fn 5.7x28. No slide resistance, high capacity=perfect pistol for woman/man in that condition 0 -
Muscle her up![:p]
Ortgies tend to work rather easily. One in .32 might be a possibility.0 -
A few musings:
-You can't pull back the hammer on a keltec .380 because it doesn't have a cockable hammer (it has an enclosed double-action only internal hammer).
-Not incidentally, I *also* have trouble racking the slide on the Kel-tec. . .I think most people do. While I actually can do it on demand, the stiff springs and small grasping area make this one of the tougher guns to load. In other words, its not just your wife. . .the gun itself is a contributing factor.
-FN 5.7 may have an easy to rack slide, but it also fires a round ballistically similar to a .22 magnum, and the gun itself isn't particularly small. The gun also isn't cheap, nor is ammo cheap or readily available. So personally, I wouldn't consider this a good choice for concealed carry
-Tip up barrel may solve the problem of loading the chamber for the first shot, but if the gun jams, you're still going to want to be able to clear it by racking the slide. So its not a "complete" solution to the problem. Put differently, being able to manipulate the slide is part of the "manual of arms" of semi-automatic pistols.
-Nothing wrong with a revolver. Weak .38s are still ballistically at least as good as a .380, and the better .38s are better.
-Practice and technique help a lot with learning how to rack these things. I'd suggest this as a practical angle to explore. (And I agree 100% with P228's suggested technique).
-Lastly, paradoxically, the smaller the gun, the harder the slide is to rack. That's because lots of these small guns use super-stiff, or even dual-capture recoil springs to compensate for their short length. A *larger* gun (eg Smith 3913) might be easier to cycle by hand.0 -
Just my two cents worth but this is exactly why my wife chooses a revolver.
When she needs it in a stressful situation she has nothing to worry about. Pulling the trigger is all she has to do. No slides, safeties, or clearing a jam etc..
She has, thank God, never had to pull it on a person but when she sees a snake out on the ranch she becomes very "stressed" and has had no problem with the function of a revolver.0 -
+1 with Garanch. A light weight revolver is the way to go in your wife's situation. 0 -
If she prefers an auto then the Beretta with tip up barrel is easiest to arm.
Keltec gunsmiths are all women and cock slides all day but I have to agree the P3AT and P11 are difficult to operate.0 -
quote:Originally posted by partisan
+1 with Garanch. A light weight revolver is the way to go in your wife's situation.
Agree, that's a simple and viable solution. . .if she is happy carrying a revolver.
Some people simply refuse to carry them believing they are antiquated. Personally, I disagree (strongly), but sometimes its hard to break through people's biases.
Without rehashing the old "revolver vs auto" debate (that has been done to death 1000 times), I would like to point out one relevant thing here.
If you really want to get the most out of an auto pistol, you should learn to rack the slide with ONE hand. In a fight, one of your hands could be disabled or holding something you can't easily let go of. In that case, if the gun jams you might get stuck.
One of the problem with the super-light auto pistols like the Kel-Tec is many of them are simply not reliable. Even if they seem to work right at the range, when you are under stress you may not hold the gun quite the same way, promoting "limp wrist" or other type malfuctions.0 -
Gotta be a small revolver. Forget about autos with small weak hands. Especially for defensive carry. 0 -
Thanks everyone!
I'v been trying to talk her into the 38 revolver, know thats what she needs(ok Im gunna get her one, if she wont use it..I will hehe.. long as its not the pink one lol)
She just loves the lil slabs though, and you'd think with the lazy-boy sized purses she carries that she wouldn't be concerned with bulk. and
I let her use my Taurus pt25(with one in the tube) right now but I don't feel like it's enough.
Great idea P228... Will try that
Thanks again
p.s. I like your breakdown Beantown[:D]0
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