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H&R M14 service rifle

theshraders
I have inherited the above item with serial # 968292. It is complete with the manual that says 1972 and is in excellent condition. I am having trouble finding out what this might be worth. Any suggestions or idea?
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  • Bill DeShivs
    If the gun is really an M14, and is not previously registered with BATF, it is highly illegal. If the previous owner had it registered, it can be legally transferred to you, and it is worth a LOT of money.
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  • givette
    Registered as a class III item, worth the far side of twenty-thousand dollars.

    "Swiped" from a US military base (as some were), you are in posession of contraband. Bad juju.

    Get with the estate of the decedant and strive to find any and all registration paperwork on the rifle machinegun. Best, Joe

    EDIT-Info Added
    The "H&R" company name appears on the back of the receiver, am I correct?
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  • nmyers
    Not necessarily.

    It might be a legal National Match model, of which there are an extremely small quantity. We would need to see photos of the markings, & possibly check with ATF.

    Or, it might be a reweld, which is just slightly illegal. I have seen several offered for sale, both on the Internet auctions & at gun shows. If that is what you have, you should be able to examine the receiver & find signs of welding. While you won't go to jail for possessing it, the fellas with the bulges in the cheap suits WILL confiscate it.

    Neal
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  • babun
    That m14 should have been made in 1961 or '62. You may have a rare
    bird on your hands. You can read that as full rock and roll capability.
    Get a person that knows m14's real good to look at it. The person looking at it should be over 55 years old and doesn't own a suit if you
    can understand what I mean. Last I knew there were about 50-60 M14's
    given a "ok-dokey" before the 1968 GCA. Bob
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  • mark christian
    That serial number falls perfectly into H&Rs fourth M14 contract and the rifle was probably produced in around 1962. Unlike their M1 Garands, H&R M14s earned a reputation for poor quality and suffered many rejects from government inspectors. All of that has nothing to do with the value of the rifle if it is an fact a registered machine gun...In which case it is worth an easy $15,000. All observed M14M (the rare modified service rifles released to NRA members during the early 1960s) were produced at Springfield Armory.
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  • cpermd
    I am betting a reweld by Hahn.

    CP
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  • theshraders
    You are correct on the location of H & R Arms Co.
    The rifle was obtained by a law enforcement officer through a military surplus program. I don't think there is any paperwork. It almost doesn't exist. Any thought on how best to sell it should I choose to do so and for how much?

    quote:Originally posted by givette
    Registered as a class III item, worth the far side of twenty-thousand dollars.

    "Swiped" from a US military base (as some were), you are in posession of contraband. Bad juju.

    Get with the estate of the decedant and strive to find any and all registration paperwork on the rifle machinegun. Best, Joe

    EDIT-Info Added
    The "H&R" company name appears on the back of the receiver, am I correct?
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  • mark christian
    Hand it over to the nearest BATFE office. Actually call ahead so that a field agent will be available to meet you. These rifles were released to police departments during the 1970s from the DoD for around $100 plus shipping. They were never to be sold to individual officers, although they could be signed out as duty weapons and depending on department policy, kept at the officers home and used for personal purposes. This varied depending on the specific PD, but some werre quite liberal. Once the officer retired he should have returned the rifle, although technically he might be able to retain it as a retired officer if his department granted retirees police powers after they were lawfully retired. Never the less: Once he died then that rifle had to go back to the agency from where it came. It cannot be transferred by inheritance, it cannot be sold by you, it cannot be retained by you and it cannot now be registered to you. It cannot be transferred to any dealer (even a so called Class 3) because it was never intended for dealer sales or for use as a sales sample. Right now it is 100% stolen government property because it was release from the DoD strictly for distribution to police agencies and having it in private hands is a theft, plain and simple. It can go to another police agency, but that would have to be co ordinated with the BATFE.

    Short answer: It is worth nothing but a whole lot of trouble to you so get rid of it before you can no longer claim ignorance.
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  • 11b6r
    Mark nailed it. Was talking with a gent from the BATFE last month- this is becoming more and more common as an older generation is passing away- and in many cases, Grandad's war trophies are coming out of the closet. Unfortunately, if a full auto has not already been registered, it cannot BE registered. The executor will need to contact the BATFE most ricky-tick.
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  • fordsix
    don;t hand it in..tear it down to the bare reciver,, a parts kit that can be built in to a semi is worth 1000..then torch cut the reciver..problem solved..just the reciver is the key get you in to hot water
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