smith and wesson 1006 or eaa 10mm
whats our picks between the two, will the eaa hold value like the 1006 will ?from what i have read on here they both are steady built guns. another question is the wyoming arms 10 mm truly junk ?
i like the dan wesson but it cost a bit more than i want to put into a gun that will see a lot of safe duty.
i like the dan wesson but it cost a bit more than i want to put into a gun that will see a lot of safe duty.
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Isn't the EAA still in production Smiths run high I know that the 1006 is the most produced model so it runs a bit lower but holds value because of the name and they are no longer produced. 0 -
I do not have a eaa in 10mm, but I do have a smith 1006, and a 1076. They are very robust, and accurate pistols. The eaa grip feels better to me, as the smiths feel a little awkward in my hand, but somehow they shoot oh so nice.
I would think it would be a matter of whatever felt better in your hand.0 -
The S&W 1006 is a very well built, and accurate DA/SA auto pistol. Likewise to the EAA Witness series pistols made by Tanfoglio. The question of which one is best is in the hands of the guy using it. How it feels, and how it shoots for them. The S&W will certainly hold better value.
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thank you for your replys, i am leaning towards the smith for value purpose, but the eaa sure is one nice looking gun also. 0 -
EAA is still quality, at a lower price. Also the fact that you can get factory conversions to 9mm, 38 super, 40 S&W, 45acp and 22lr once you've bought your 10mm is a real bonus. 0 -
I had an EAA Witness 10mm. Sold it last time I was laid off. It was a good enough gun. Think I got just about what I paid for it out it. Accuracy was good.
The only thing I didn't like about it was that it was really heavy! I think if I ever it another 10mm it will be a 1911 or a Glock. Glock is so much lighter weight then the EAA.
Edit 1: Todesengel, I agree regarding the weight.
Good for reloading -- horrible for all day carry. I bought my Witness with the goal of starting reloading. I sold it years before I ever started reloading.
That reminds me, the other thing I thought was kinda dumb on the Witness was it being DA/SA. The whole manually lowering a hammer on a semi-auto just seemed dangerous to me. I'd feel better if it had a decocker on it or was single action only.
Regarding the Glock 10mm - I'd definately get aftermarket button rifled barrel for it. All my reloading so far has been lead.
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quote:Originally posted by drobs
I had an EAA Witness 10mm. Sold it last time I was laid off. It was a good enough gun. Think I got just about what I paid for it out it. Accuracy was good.
The only thing I didn't like about it was that it was really heavy! I think if I ever it another 10mm it will be a 1911 or a Glock. Glock is so much lighter weight then the EAA.
Edit 1: Todesengel, I agree regarding the weight.
Good for reloading -- horrible for all day carry. I bought my Witness with the goal of starting reloading. I sold it years before I ever started reloading.
That reminds me, the other thing I thought was kinda dumb on the Witness was it being DA/SA. The whole manually lowering a hammer on a semi-auto just seemed dangerous to me. I'd feel better if it had a decocker on it or was single action only.
Regarding the Glock 10mm - I'd definately get aftermarket button rifled barrel for it. All my reloading so far has been lead.
I certainly wasn't trying to be ignorant towards you drobs, I respect you, and your service to this country. If one is only going to fire factory loads through a 10mm they are probably better off going with the .40 and buying some "hot" loads when they want a little more oomph. I think most 10mm loads put out now are pretty stinking weak.
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quote:Originally posted by drobs
I had an EAA Witness 10mm. Sold it last time I was laid off. It was a good enough gun. Think I got just about what I paid for it out it. Accuracy was good.
The only thing I didn't like about it was that it was really heavy! I think if I ever it another 10mm it will be a 1911 or a Glock. Glock is so much lighter weight then the EAA.
that weight is mighty handy when you load the 10mm up the way it is supposed to be. Weak factory loads (with exception of old Norma [:D]) are not an indication of the capability of the cartridge. If he plans on loading it hot, the glock is not the best option imho
quote:I certainly wasn't trying to be ignorant towards you drobs, I respect you, and your service to this country. If one is only going to fire factory loads through a 10mm they are probably better off going with the .40 and buying some "hot" loads when they want a little more oomph. I think most 10mm loads put out now are pretty stinking weak.
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That reminds me, the other thing I thought was kinda dumb on the Witness was it being DA/SA. The whole manually lowering a hammer on a semi-auto just seemed dangerous to me. I'd feel better if it had a decocker on it or was single action only.
Drobs: What is the difference between manually lowering the hammer on a Witness and manually lowering it on a 1911? You can also carry a Witness cocked and locked like a 1911, if you want to.0 -
I've shot both.
Didn't care for the Smith. Didn't fit my hand right, and the trigger pull wasn't great.
EAA is a bigger heavier gun, but I don't see that as a disadvantage given the power of the load. Its not like you're likely to be carrying this thing concealed. Despite the size, I liked its feel better.
EAA also lets you easily convert to other calibers (if you are so inclined). That's a big plus considering the cost and relative scarcity of 10mm ammo.
My answer is that if you actually want to SHOOT the thing, get the Witness. If (like probably most shooters) you just want "a" 10mm to stick in your safe indefinitely, and you're probably not going to shoot it frequently (if at all) get the Smith!
If you go with the EAA, just note that the gun out of the box tends to toss empty shells "briskly" (ie >20 feet!). Not good if you want to reload the precious 10mm shells! Supposedly a stiffer spring can reduce this a bit.
In general, I think 10mm is mostly a "gun nut" caliber. Recoil is fairly brisk, more than probably most shooters really want to deal with, making followup shots slow.
Ammo is relatively expensive; unless you are reloading or made of money, shooting this gun is going to hurt your wallet.
While this is a good caliber for someone who wants to use the same gun for defense against 2 AND 4 -legged things, or either/both of the above AND hunting, or someone who may need to shoot through light cover or the like, I think for most shooters the round is overkill.0 -
quote:Originally posted by beantownshootah
In general, I think 10mm is mostly a "gun nut" caliber. Recoil is fairly brisk, more than probably most shooters really want to deal with, making followup shots slow.
I can not ever figure out why people say the 10mm recoil is so bad. My 16 year old and 13 year old sons shoot my 10mms all the time. With full power loads like Double Tap, etc, and the recoil is no problem for them. And my 13 year old is built like a stick.0
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