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Shipping an AR-15 to California

kmorvant
Is it legal to ship an AR-15 to a licensed dealer in California?
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  • sandwarrior
    Yes, but it has to have a "fixed" (temporarily permanently attached to the rifle) magazine of no more than 10 rounds.
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  • rsnyder55
    Or a magazine release that requires a tool to remove the magazine. E.G bullet tip.
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  • nmyers
    But, is it really your problem? I'm sure that there are exceptions to the law (e.g., a rifle going to an LEA).

    The dealer must know what you plan to ship to him, & he must agree to accept it. If it needs a permanent mag, or if it needs a certain type of mag, IT'S THE DEALER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO TELL YOU WHAT HE NEEDS.

    Neal

    EDIT: Sandwarrior, you may be right. Reading his query again, I see that it could be read either way. If I had understood that he was a CA resident, my response would have been, "Go to your local dealer & buy whatever he is willing to sell you; you don't have a lot of choice."
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  • sandwarrior
    Neal,

    I think what he means is he wants to buy one in California from another state. Is that correct Kmorvant? So HE would need to know what is legal where HE lives.

    kmorvant,

    And to clarify my first post, the magazine has to be attached to the rifle as though it were permanent. It requires a tool(s) to remove and replace it. You are correct rsnyder55. That is what I meant. However, it doesn't require a magazine to be attached to a rifle in the fashion that a muzzle break/flash-hider need be attached to make a barrel 16". That would require soldering or welding. Which is what I needed to clarify.
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  • Laredo Lefty
    In addition to having either a fixed 10 rd magazine or a magazine release that requires a "tool" the lower receiver must be one of the "off list" receivers. This means it cannot be one of the receivers listed by name in the Calif assault weapon laws.

    These receivers are sold at the local gun shows I attend.
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  • dfletcher
    If the AR is specifically banned by name the gun can not be mailed into CA regardless of configuration or to which FFL it may be sent. If it is not specifically banned it must be properly configured.

    In addition to the tool approach, the lower - which is the actual "firearm" part of the gun - can be sent into CA alone with no modifications. The tool and bullet button approach is required for semi auto centerfire only. Regardless of the marking on the receiver, so long as it is of the 223 size it can be used for 22 rimfire and no tool or BB is required.

    Maybe a bit more adventurous that way, but if it can not be modified before it come into CA have the lower and upper sent separately.
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  • 11b6r
    D, I have to disagree. Believe a FFL (01 Dealer) in CA can receive a firearm that may not be sold to a resident of CA- they can sell to persons in other states. I do business with a nice company that has their shop in CA- and some of their auctions are marked "Cannot be sold to California Resident". But a resident of Texas, for instance, may buy, and have the CA dealer ship to his TX dealer.
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  • Laredo Lefty
    11b........ An 01 FFL can receive certain guns that cannot be resold in Cal such as handguns that are not on the states approved list and are NOT "Private property transfers". For an FFL to deal in the banned catagories of assault weapons, they would need to have an assault weapons license.

    I buy guns from a couple of auctions here in Cal. Most of the guns I have seen that they labeled not for sale in Cal were handguns that they bought and were not "consignment" guns. If the company outright buys handguns that are NOT on the "approved" list, they cannot be resold in calif except to another FFL. If the handgun is handled on consignment then it can be sold to a private person in Cal even if not on the approved list.
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  • dfletcher
    quote:Originally posted by 11b6r
    D, I have to disagree. Believe a FFL (01 Dealer) in CA can receive a firearm that may not be sold to a resident of CA- they can sell to persons in other states. I do business with a nice company that has their shop in CA- and some of their auctions are marked "Cannot be sold to California Resident". But a resident of Texas, for instance, may buy, and have the CA dealer ship to his TX dealer.


    I agree with you to a point. Don't know if you were at the Reno show, but I saw alot of my favorite NorCal gun stores with all sorts of stuff we can't get here. Most of it was off roster handguns they had in inventory. I know alot of them sell on line, I think it's mostly handguns, although I have seen a few AWs. I figured they were personal collection items. I know some stores have an AW license so they can get those guns, so if by a licensed FFL the OP meant a CA FFL with a state issues AW license - yes the FFL can receive an AW. But I think for the most part the average CA gun store can't bring in what would be an AW.
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  • cabnetman
    If I were to move to California would I be allowed to take my AR-15's with me, or are they not allowed at all?
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