E.R.Shaw 17hm2 ss helical fluted barrel?
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does any one have one of these with the heavy bolt for a 10/22? does it shoot real accurate? what would be a good price for 1 that has been shot 50 times? one of the guys at work that i really don't like has one that he is going to sell because after he found out the ammo was going to be 3 times the price of 22lr he put the original setup back on. he said that it went together with no problems and that is pretty good from this idiot. he isn't the brightest bulb if you know what i mean. he used to work at a store in his spare time in the sporting goods department. he thought he was an expert even though the 10/22 that he purchased there was the only firearm he has ever had or fired. he had to have me show him how to load the magazine and put it in the rifle. i also showed him how to take it apart and put back together. i help everybody the same because people at work know if they have a firearm problem come ask me. i have even loaned out firearms for people to use to see if they like it before they purchase one of that type for themselves. i am not in business but alot of people come to me to find decent price on firearms for them.
oops off the subject. has anybody had or shot the e.r.shaw like mentioned before. likes and dislikes? accuracy or things to watch out for? how often do these need to be cleaned?
he also told me he paid 190 for the barrel and 40 for the bolt kit plus 10 for shipping for a total of 240 he wants to sell and put it on the board at work 175 or best offer. i think maybe 125 or 150 at the most but i want some help from the experts on this. he has no idea of how accurate because he doe not have a scope and that is another reason he is going to sell because he does not want to have to buy a scope just to shoot it.
thanks
does any one have one of these with the heavy bolt for a 10/22? does it shoot real accurate? what would be a good price for 1 that has been shot 50 times? one of the guys at work that i really don't like has one that he is going to sell because after he found out the ammo was going to be 3 times the price of 22lr he put the original setup back on. he said that it went together with no problems and that is pretty good from this idiot. he isn't the brightest bulb if you know what i mean. he used to work at a store in his spare time in the sporting goods department. he thought he was an expert even though the 10/22 that he purchased there was the only firearm he has ever had or fired. he had to have me show him how to load the magazine and put it in the rifle. i also showed him how to take it apart and put back together. i help everybody the same because people at work know if they have a firearm problem come ask me. i have even loaned out firearms for people to use to see if they like it before they purchase one of that type for themselves. i am not in business but alot of people come to me to find decent price on firearms for them.
oops off the subject. has anybody had or shot the e.r.shaw like mentioned before. likes and dislikes? accuracy or things to watch out for? how often do these need to be cleaned?
he also told me he paid 190 for the barrel and 40 for the bolt kit plus 10 for shipping for a total of 240 he wants to sell and put it on the board at work 175 or best offer. i think maybe 125 or 150 at the most but i want some help from the experts on this. he has no idea of how accurate because he doe not have a scope and that is another reason he is going to sell because he does not want to have to buy a scope just to shoot it.
thanks
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ER Shaw makes custom barrels. Haven't used one myself, but supposedly they are pretty good.
Swapping out a barrel into a 10/22 is pretty easy, and can be done in a matter of minutes with a screwdriver and a hex wrench. That's one of the reasons why this particular gun is so popular for modification.
How accurate will this setup be? You never know until you try, but I'd expect pretty good INTRINSIC accuracy with that round and barrel. Dime-sized groups at 50 yards are possible.
The problem is that with a stock Ruger 10/22 trigger, and iron sights, you're going to have a hard time extracting good PRACTICAL accuracy out of the gun. If you want to wring the most out of the gun, a match-type trigger and an optical sight would be strongly desirable.
Likes and dislikes? Well, basically the .17HR2 is intended for hunting small game, and its very good for that purpose. Apart from that, you're not going to have much advantage over .22LR, which has cheaper and easier to find ammo.
In terms of cleaning. . .many standard cleaning kits use .20 (or so) caliber rods and jags. So depending on the size of your particular kit, you may not be able to clean the barrel, and you may need to get a new cleaning rod. Cleaning a 10/22 properly usually requires taking the action out of the gun and disassembling it, but I won't go into that here.
The most important thing is that the teensy .22-based rimfire doesn't burn a lot of powder and tends not to get very dirty. Cleaning, especially by those who don't know what they are doing, can damage a barrel's crown and erode accuracy. So in terms of cleaning. . .less is more. It depends a little bit on what exactly you are doing with the gun, but for casual use, you're probably best only cleaning it infrequently. That is, you clean it only when reliability or accuracy seem to be decreased.0 -
Don't have one of those, but have a Shaw barrel in .260 Rem that is a moa rifle if I do my part. I think he builds a quality product, though it is not high priced and sometimes gets dissed because of that. 0 -
I have and have had something like a dozen ER Shaw barrels over the last 20yrs. When I build a Mauser 98 my go to barrels are the pre threaded Shilen barrels from Brownells. But when I can't get what I want off the rack my next go to company is ER Shaws. That's because I can send them any old action, like a model 1917, and they will put my choice of cambered barrel on it and convert the action as needed. Which is a big time savings on my end. Also their turn around time and prices are reasonable. I should also mention that Shaws hass been or is a OEM supplier for many semi custom short run rifles and companies.
As far as their barrels accuracy well I won't claim they rate in the top five barrel makers or anything like that. But generally their barrels have always shot minute of angle if the rifle and shooter do their part. So I wouldn't expect accuracy issues, unless you expect 1/2 minute accuracy @ 100yds or something like that.
The one thing about your description that does put me off is the helical fluting. I've seen it and don't care for it. Bedding that combo solidly to a stock can be an issue. Full free float would be the best answer as I see it.
As far as price, hey these days there isn't as much money floating around and it is a buyers market. Start at your low ball price and go from there. All he can say is no.
From what I've seen at the range the 17HM2 is 85% of what the 17HMR is and that ain't bad. Since I put up my 17HMR I have left my 22LRs home when I go to the range. But, I've got this old 22LR Stevens Favorite sitting and I'm thinking that setting up a 17HM2 barrel for it might be just the thing......0
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