Contd: What is a 1943 -8mm- German Massuer worth?
Ok - Trying to figure out how to get pics on this board. I will do so today and post- Until then :
I bought the Mauser.
It has flaws-
1)Sling mount on rear stock filled in
2)An area around rear of bolt action also filled in.
Otherwise - Gun looks good enough.
Details on Gun:
Barrel stamps:
Left side of barrel - Appears to be a backward c with letter (h)beside that is letter (W)with complete circle around that.
Also on top of barrel is letter (Bo)- stamped in right side of barrel (faintly) is a German solider insignia of winged symbol underneath that appears vol 523
also has stamped on left side- 4776 - on top letters bnz- with underneath that is a lighting bolt - underneath that in large print the #43
Stamps on chamber left side is Modal 98
The #4776 number is on most all parts of all metal.
it appears to hold maybe 6 rounds of 8mm bullets?
stock is slender and smooth around area of bolt action -smooth slender base of wooden stock.
gun has gun sights when round is chambered - look thru pin hole down to end of barrel to barrel sight and onward to target.
Gun came with :
Black Hoppe's Case
20 rounds of 8mm full metal jacket bullets
I will supply pics as soon as possible..
I bought the Mauser.
It has flaws-
1)Sling mount on rear stock filled in
2)An area around rear of bolt action also filled in.
Otherwise - Gun looks good enough.
Details on Gun:
Barrel stamps:
Left side of barrel - Appears to be a backward c with letter (h)beside that is letter (W)with complete circle around that.
Also on top of barrel is letter (Bo)- stamped in right side of barrel (faintly) is a German solider insignia of winged symbol underneath that appears vol 523
also has stamped on left side- 4776 - on top letters bnz- with underneath that is a lighting bolt - underneath that in large print the #43
Stamps on chamber left side is Modal 98
The #4776 number is on most all parts of all metal.
it appears to hold maybe 6 rounds of 8mm bullets?
stock is slender and smooth around area of bolt action -smooth slender base of wooden stock.
gun has gun sights when round is chambered - look thru pin hole down to end of barrel to barrel sight and onward to target.
Gun came with :
Black Hoppe's Case
20 rounds of 8mm full metal jacket bullets
I will supply pics as soon as possible..
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bnz is the world war two German manufacturer's code for Steyr in Austria.
4476 is the main serial number, the "lightning bolt" is likely a lower case letter that completes the serial number.
Other stamps are proof marks and inspector's marks.0 -
the lighting bolt is below letters (bnz) and in a stand alone fashion. Other words nothing on either side and below.. Seems odd that it could final a serial #?
But what the heck - i don't know.. lol0 -
cowboy_md,
This is the link to the Sticky posted above this forum titled:
Posting Photographs
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=259294
If you have any difficulties, please post again or e-mail one of us fro guidance.
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Instructions on how to post pictures are in the "sticky" at the top of the Ask the Experts thread.
In a nutshell, you have to upload your digital pictures to one of many public image-linking sites (Photobucket is an example, and many of these are free). Once you do that, you can link to the image in the post you want to make here.
The classical K98 German infantry Mauser rifles holds 5 rounds in the magazine, which are loadable by stripper clips. You can't easily drop another one into the chamber (for 5+1) because of the Mauser's oversized controlled-feed extractor.
The rounds it uses are the 7.92x57mm IS rounds, usually just called 8mm Mauser in the USA (or sometimes 8mmx57). As mentioned in the last thread, surplus ammo is still relatively available at about 30 cents per round.
This surplus ammo is corrosive, and requires thorough cleaning of the gun after shooting to prevent corrosion of the bore and working surfaces. Its possible to convert 30'06 cases into 8mm cases for reloading.
In terms of ballistics, 8mm Mauser is actually a relatively potent round, equalling, or even potentially exceeding the ballistics of the 30'06 depending on the load. That makes it suitable for hunting any game in North America (or Europe).
And I find it curious that you say the gun has sights "when the round is chambered" and that they are "pin hole" sights.
The standard German K98 has an elevation-adjustable rear notch sight over the middle of the action, **NOT** a "peep" (aka aperture, "pinhole") sight. If yours has a round hole sight in the back, then its been modified. (If you aren't a purist/collector, but rather a shooter, I'd consider this a GOOD thing, as the peep sight should increase practical accuracy, and a decent Mauser peep sight is an item worth around $50+ by itself)
Standard rear K98 sight with built-in elevation ramp:
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cowboy_md...I think you might have an interesting rifle here but w/o photos hard to tell. I have one of these BNZ "single rune" Mausers in my collection. Suggest you consult Law's "Backbone of the Wehrmacht" p. 187 and photo on p. 196 and/or Ball's "Mauser Military Rifles of the World" p. 123. While most are not sure what they are, the best guess by Mauser historians is that they were made in concentration camps under SS supervision beginning in 1943 which was HHimmler's 98k plan. These BNZ's were SN three and four digit up to 8000+, so your SN fits that bill. The location of the rune is between the BNZ mark and the 43 date on the reciever. By your description, the rifle in question fits that bill also. The rune looks like the single rune of the Hitler Youth rather than the two standard SS "lightning bolt" runes of typical SS rifles. But, again, without photos hard to tell. If it is a BNZ single rune, it is a rather rare rifle and if all #'s match, even with the problems that you list, would be interesting to a 98k collector. Hope this helps! Good shooting! 0
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