1911 Colt Gov model help
My husband recently passed away and I have been selling some of his guns. He has a pair of 1911 Colt Gov models with 5 inch barrels. They are black, in excellent condition, and have consecutive serial numbers - 283016 and 283017. They have only been fired a few times, are in original boxes with the barrel brushes. A friend tells me they are worth as a pair about $5,000. I also have a gun dealer, who has been selling some of the guns for me, telling me they are only worth about $750 each, and the consecutive serials do not add to the value. Can anyone help me with this?
Also have a Colt 1911, nickel finish, marked with a US Army stamp, Engraved US property, serial NO9276. This gun is in fair condition. Any idea on value?
Thanks for any help
Also have a Colt 1911, nickel finish, marked with a US Army stamp, Engraved US property, serial NO9276. This gun is in fair condition. Any idea on value?
Thanks for any help
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My condolences on the passing of your husband. I helped a widow sell off her husband's guns and gear a few years ago and it was a trying time.
If guns 283016-17 are actual US service pistols and not some sort of copy or commemorative, they were made in 1918. If in the condition described, $5000 would be a conservative estimate. Either the dealer sees something a bare description does not cover or he is seriously lowballing you.
If the serial numbers have a letter "C" suffix, then they are commercial guns made in 1958. They probably would not bring $5000, but would be worth a good deal more than $750 each.
We need close, clear, well lighted, in focus pictures of the guns and all their markings. And it might get some added expertise to post at:
http://forums.1911forum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=30
Gun No 9276 was made in 1912 for the U.S. Navy and would have been so marked. Sometime in the intervening years, it got an Army slide, either through arsenal overhaul or just a mixup when a number of guns were cleaned at the same time. It was nickel plated sometime after leaving the service in surplus sale or in somebody's duffle bag. The mixed parts and especially the aftermarket nickel plating greatly reduce the resale value to only a few hundred dollars.
The old nickel gun is about as I expected.
The 1958 Excellent In Box pair looks really nice, but I cannot help with price. Looking at completed auctions on the sale side here, there are just not a lot of guns moving, with auctions closed out short of reserve and ending with no bid at all.0 -
if you can figure out how to post the pics we will tell you everything..hawk carse has given gret info for you[:p] 0 -
Thanks for the info - will take photos later today and post. 0 -
I hope I am posting photos right. The two 1911's with the consecutive serials do have a C after them. Please let me know what you think the values of them would be. And does the consecutive serials add to the value or should they be sold as a pair?
For the older 1911 - I may be wrong about it being nickel.
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quote:I also have a gun dealer, who has been selling some of the guns for me, telling me they are only worth about $750 each, and the consecutive serials do not add to the value.
you need to get a new dealer! i hope he hasn't taken advantage of you regarding prices of the other guns you sold.
use the auction listing of guns sold as a guide to pricing, then find a dealer who can handle the sale for you for a flat rate. if i sell a gun for someone i charge 10% of the sales price, plus FFL fees.where are you located? if youre in the midwest i can hook you up with some honest gun dealers who help you get a fair price for your guns.
you can email me if you prefer at tplumeri@ruraltel.net
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the nickled one is just a 'shooter' now so $500 +-, Zanders sporting goods has some similar blued 1911's (like new in box)from the 1950's for sale now and the START at about $2000.00 0 -
""My condolences on the passing of your husband.""
quote:you need to get a new dealer! i hope he hasn't taken advantage of you regarding prices of the other guns you sold.
i second that suggestion, he sounds to like the typical scoundrel who sees a very good thing and wants to make a pile of money from your misfortune.0 -
Thank you all for the information. The dealer has not see these guns yet, he was only going on my description at the time. I have only given him newer guns that I know the value of and I have held onto the older guns. i also have some old Lugers that I will post later. The dealer has told me he will look at the 1911's and give me an appraisal. I can then make my decision as to him selling them for me. Thank you for any information. The pair of 1911's are not what I thought they were and it has been a help. 0 -
Brand-new '50's Colt M1911A1's will sell for $2,000 each here at auction!
As previously mentioned, if you choose to use the dealer make sure (in writing) that the dealer will get a seller's commission only. Say, for instance, 10pct. Don't let him buy the guns from you outright!! (Also, how will you know how much the guns sold for?) No. Best to sell at auction here.
We'll eyeball the P-08's (Lugers) when you have the pictures up.
Tidbit: I noticed you have posted avatar, or thumbnail size photos. Next time, post them at the "460??" computer screen size. And stack the photos vertically by hitting the "enter" button twice between photos. Best, Joe0
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