Llama Pistols?
I was recently to my favorite gun store, and they have a Llama 1911 copy chambered in .45 ACP for sale for $299.99. I don't currently have a .45, and I am interested in purchasing one in the near future. My question is: Are Llama firearms good? I have no experience with them, and I really haven't heard much about them. Are they quality made firearms? I know that .45s are generally a lot more expensive than the other guns I have, and $300 seems like a very good deal.
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LLAMA pistols are out of business and parts are very hard to find on the used market. Quality spotty some very good and the next one junk. Be careful just my $.02 YMMV 0 -
if your wanting a 1911 style 45, you can still purchase a rock island around the $350.00 range. IMHO the other company you mentioned has never really made a great 1911. just my two cents. im sure others will be along shortly to comment. look for perry shooter. he is the resident 1911 shooter. best 0 -
I have three Llama pistols - .23 acp, 9mm, and .45 acp. All of these are built on the 1911 concept. All have been excellent guns and the .45 is one of my favorite shooters. Reportedly, earlier versions of the guns were of poor quality. Later models were much better. However, as stated, the company is out of business and parts can be a problem. Not all true 1911 parts will interchange; some but not all. If you will follow the link below it will take you to a site that has many different forums for many different brands of guns. There is a forum for "Llama/Firestorm. You will find a lot of Llama owners and lots of information about Llamas.
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Bought one at a gun show a few months ago in 9mm for $159 and it's been a great shooter. They are NOT hollowpoint friendly though-at least not without some tuning so you have to use FMJ or Corbon Powerball which is expanding ammo built like fmj--I carry Hornady Critical Defense in mine but they don't offer that in .45 acp yet. There are quite a few parts that do interchange with standard 1911's. The 1911 forums usually have a list of what does interchange--a few off the top of my head are the magazines, barrels, slide stops, bushing---the grips though will not interchange at all. You really shouldn't pay more than $275 for one as they are just shooters and not collectible-nor would I consider one for serious defense work unless it functions 100%. If you get one spend the money and buy a Wilson Combat or Kimber magazine and you will probably eliminate any feeding problems.
There is a dealer on the auction side who specializes in tuning & repairing Llama's--just do a search for those guns and you will come across him.0 -
Llama pistols, under various Spanish manufacturers' labels, were made from pre 1920 until just a few years ago. The Spanish took the 1911 concept to all the extremes in caliber, function, size and as stated before in some areas - Quality. They were the staple of the Spanish armed forces since the late 1930's. I've owned a couple that were excellent with respect to fit, finish and function and one that was a real stinker. I've seen others that rival any of the "major" manufacturers with respect to function and accuracy and I've seen others that were as sloppy as a 60 year old USGI trainer. You really need to take a close inspection of any Llama piece that you buy and know what you're looking for. $300 is above average but not at the max. price that I've seen for the .45s, over the past few years. Parts are becoming harder to find. On a personal note, I own a pre Micro model in .32ACP - it is a real gem and I bought it for $175, shoots anything I put in to it - this version was the basic sidearm of the Spanish Air Force for about 50 years. 0
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