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Gunsmithing help on Delisle Carbine needed.

nick357
Hi good folks of Gunbroker, I need your help on a Gunsmithing level. I got an under powered Bullet stuck in my Barrel I think it must of Bridged in my Lee Autodisk as I had to switch to Unique Powder as England was Dry off Bullseye, I have posted a Video on youtube it is not very good but hopefully someone can identify the problem. I have tried adjusting the Bolt face but it goes from not shutting at all to how it is in the Video!. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, and being in England I hope I can fix it myself as this is a specialised Rifle I don't have any Gunsmiths that can undertake the work [:(] .
Thanks.
Best regards Nick.

[:D] Very Happy thanks nmyers & givette, sorry for the delay it was late when I last posted and had to get up early and I work 12 Hour shifts. Tried your suggestion and pushed the Extractor back there was a hunk of Brass and other debris, cleaned it all out and now it closes just fine however I tried firing a Primer only case and it left a very deep hole in it from the strike it didn't puncture it but there could be a risk of it any suggestions?. Once again many thanks for your help if you are ever in England pm me and I will buy you the finest warmest Pint of Mead in the land, or just nip down to my local gun club and spend the day shooting Zombie targets [8D].

Hi thanks for the info, I have tried the bolt screwed all the way in and 1 / 2 turns out still a no go.
Here is the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l62StX1Nlo


Hi sorry for delay could not get onto photobucketkept freezing, there is a bolt picture there hope you can see it as my Camera is not very good and very hard to get detailed pictures from it.
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  • Emmett Dunham
    Brass rod and hammer works. A friend had a stuck round he sent to a gunsmith and advertised a press to get the bullet out of his rife, I was not there to see the press and he may have used a rod and hammer.
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  • nmyers
    On the first attempt, it DID look like the bolt went into battery; i.e., the handle was fully down. But, I guess not, or you would have said so.

    The name Delisle is not familiar, but it appears to be similar to an Enfield No 3. My thought is that you may have damaged the extractor. It would help if you could post a close-up photo of the bolt face, & also see if the extractor spring is operating properly.

    Another possibility is that a piece of the bullet is wedged against the face of the breech, preventing the bolt from closing. Remove the bolt & examine it with a good light.

    Neal

    EDIT: Not sure what your bolt looks like or how the extractor is retained, but the standard Enfield bolt requires a special tool for disassembly. A photo might help. Also, replies on this forum are usually limited to 10, so you might just want to edit your latest post by clicking on the edit icon (it looks like a pencil & piece of paper.)

    EDIT: I think I may have figured out 2 possible solutions to the problem. 1) When installing the bolt, be sure that the rib on the cocking piece is on the OPPOSITE side of the bolt from the rib of the bolt body, OR 2) the bolt head is not completely screwed into the bolt body & aligned with the bolt body rib when the bolt is inserted into the receiver.

    To check for proper function of the extractor, push it away from the center of the bolt face; spring pressure should force it back. The extractor can be removed by removing the screw in the bolt head, but you will probably be unable to reinstall it without a fixture, due to high spring tension.

    EDIT: I still think there's a problem with assembly of the bolt, & your video seems to show a gap between the bolt head & the bolt. Can you take some still photos of the bolt (out of the rifle)?

    EDIT: A military armorer would use a firing pin protrusion gauge to measure how far out the firing pin comes. Some primers (generally commercial) are softer than others (generally military. You probably do not have a problem unless (when firing real loads) you have either punctured primers, or the primers back out of the primer pocket.
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  • givette
    Nick: I can't see from here, but do you have the bolt head screwed all the way in? If it's one turn outwards, the bolt won't close. Also, you should delete all but your first post. Click on the little trash can symbol at the top of your posts. Best, Joe

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