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Flash hider. . .question.

beantownshootah
Two questions:

a. Is there any difference between a "flash suppressor" and a "flash hider"? (As far as I know these are alternate terms for the same thing).

b. Is there any legal reason why you can't put a flash hider/suppressor on a bolt action or other non-semiautomatic rifle?

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  • Nwcid
    No difference that I am aware of other then terms.

    Unless you live in a state that restricts them I see no reason why not. I am not aware of a federal law that restricts them on bolt guns.

    Keep in mind that threading then adding a device to the end of a bolt action can change the way it shoot. It will change your harmonics.
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  • perry shooter
    Unless you are on a swat team . why put something on a bolt action rifle that may affect how it shoots . sure it may look cool but unless you are hunting in the dark not legal in most states what good will it do . save the money or buy more ammo and pratice with it to become a better shot.
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  • heath556
    Flash Suppessors look cool on a bolt gun, go with a muzzle break to tame a large magnum, but be ready to rework some loads. I have seen it go good and bad??? But its your gun, rock on.
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  • Bill DeShivs
    Flash suppressors are designed to reduce the muzzle flash seen by the shooter, not to actually reduce the flash.
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  • beantownshootah
    quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
    Unless you are on a swat team . why put something on a bolt action rifle that may affect how it shoots . sure it may look cool but unless you are hunting in the dark not legal in most states what good will it do . save the money or buy more ammo and pratice with it to become a better shot.


    Its a good question.

    The answer is that I am considering putting one on my Mosin-Nagant M44 "scout" project carbine. As you probably know, muzzle flash on these can be "brisk" (see actual pictures below).

    I'll be putting up a series of pictures of the project gun once I get going on it (haven't started yet). Should be fun. And before anyone gets all bent out of shape for me "Bubbaing" some precious WWII historical piece, I'm starting with a finish-worn 1950s era HUNGARIAN barrelled ACTION (ie that has absolutely no historical value whatever).

    I don't really care if it changes the point of impact, since (obviously) I am going to re-zero the rifle after installing it!

    No, I don't plan on hunting in the dark, but its possible that I might want to shoot the thing in relatively low light, and if so, I'd prefer not to be blinded.

    Lastly, I think what I really want is not just "flash surpressor", but rather a muzzle-brake that also acts as a flash surpressor (thereby killing two birds with one stone). But I just wanted to hear some thoughts on these before I started.

    My understanding, for what its worth, is that these are not only supposed to hide the flash from the shooter, but also break it up a little bit, to make it harder to see by distant observers.


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  • givette
    Flash Surpressor (M16,M14,M60, etc)
    Designed to minimize the operator being spotted as the point of origination of the shot.

    Flash Hider (M1C, 40mm AA, M2 Carbine, etc)
    Designed to minimize the operator's loss of vision (flashbulb effect).

    Best, Joe
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  • quickmajik
    Two things that I have learned when threading a heavy barreled rifle, first, do not remove more of the barrel surrounding the muzzle then is absolutly needed..2)Recrown the muzzle.
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  • cwi555
    quote:Originally posted by givette
    Flash Surpressor (M16,M14,M60, etc)
    Designed to minimize the operator being spotted as the point of origination of the shot.

    Flash Hider (M1C, 40mm AA, M2 Carbine, etc)
    Designed to minimize the operator's loss of vision (flashbulb effect).

    Best, Joe


    Give the gentlemen a cigar. Those are the correct answers.
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  • sandwarrior
    quote:Originally posted by cwi555
    quote:Originally posted by givette
    Flash Surpressor (M16,M14,M60, etc)
    Designed to minimize the operator being spotted as the point of origination of the shot.

    Flash Hider (M1C, 40mm AA, M2 Carbine, etc)
    Designed to minimize the operator's loss of vision (flashbulb effect).

    Best, Joe


    Give the gentlemen a cigar. Those are the correct answers.



    I'll agree. I want to point out though that beantownshootah is probably blowing off old ammo which no flash suppressor is going to keep down. My $.02
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  • quickmajik
    Well, this is a whole different beast. I'd go with a dedicated double chamber, horizontally venting break Or event better something like a 4 piece bulgarian muzzle device as seen on 7.62 krinks, or the whistle pig AR break.

    the 4 piece/whistle pig breaks hide most of the flash and directs the sound foward towards the target.

    Basically what the four piece break consists of is a short blast chamber with a inverted cone through which the bullet exits. Not sure if the ones sold by kavar or whistle pig can stand up to that kind of pressure.
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