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Iver Johnson M1 Carbine

twbaum
Trying to find out what an Iver Johnson M1 Carbine at about 90% would cost. I have a friend wanting to sell me his.
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  • twbaum
    Recently aquired stainless steel carbine that will not feed 1st and last rd out of magazine tried several differnt mags. All rds. in between cycles perfect. This carbine is driving me crazy .It has been throughly cleaned. Any suggestions greatly appreciated
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  • rufe-snow
    One of our members, Bill Goforth is a expert on Iver Johnson firearms. He is a former employee and has written a book on them. If he doesn't respond to your post, you can contact him at this web site.

    http://www.geocities.com/iverjohnsoncollector/


    Your carbine was made in the 70's, after I.J. was merged with the company that had been previously known as Plainfield Machine. The cylinder in the stock is a receptacle for oil.
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  • twbaum
    Thanks much for that information! I am pleased that this is a 70s model as I had heard that the IJ M1s made in the 80s before IJ went into bankruptcy were not of the same quality standard as their earlier productions.

    Can the year of manufacture be narrowed any closer?

    I skimmed that site and could not locate M1 serial number information though I did not go through the site in detail.

    Again, thanks for the info and quick response.
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  • b.goforth
    in about 1975 iver johnson purchased the plainsfield machine co. (makers of civilian M1 carbine). between 1975 and 1978 iver johnson closed the doors of their Fitchburg, MA factory and moved every thing to the plainsfield machine co. factory in middlesex new jersey. in 1982 iver johnson was sold to a group of inverstors in arkansas and by spring of 1983 everything was moved again to jacksonville arkansas.

    this carbine was manufactured between 1978 and 1982 using plainsfield machinery and most likely some leftover plainfield parts. the iver johnson new jersey manufactured carbine and the jacksonville (until about 1988) manufactured carbines are all considered good serviceable firearms. the bad one came late after money trouble set in and another new set of owners took over about 1989. carbines manufactured between 1989 and the end of production early 1993 are the one that gave the iver johnson carbine a bad name. after 1989 there was very little actual production of new carbine, mostly what was sold was made of leftover invertory (both good and bad parts were used).

    the closing of the Fitchburg MA factory in 1978 brought an end to a firearms comapny that was once the largest manufacturer of revolver and shotguns in the U.S.A. and maybe the world. from 1978 until the final end saw manufacture of only semiatomatic handguns 30 caliber carbines and imported 22 rimfire rifles. iver johnson started having money troubles in the 1960's and the new owners of the 1970's and 1980's didn't seem to help. the building of a new factory in jacksonville arkansas with all new modern machinery and a state of the art casting plant caused the new iver johnson arms comapany to be so deep in debt it could not survive.

    one last thing when i visited the jacksonville factory in 1983 the people running it and working there had never seen anything but pictures of the firearms that made the company famous. those with the "hammer the hammer" action. it was at thier urging that i under took the writting of my first iver johnson book published in 1993.
    bill
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  • CS8161
    The "sling retainer" is actually an oiler...unscrew the top, fill it with oil and its always handy!
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  • Ellichman
    quote:Originally posted by twbaum
    I just purchased an Iver Johnson M1 carbine. It is stamped Iver Johnson's Arms New Jersey. The serial number is AA11XXX. Can anyone tell me about this rifle? What year was it made and any other relevant information?

    Also, The sling retainer in the stock is a metallic cylinder that un-screws at one end. Anyone know the purpose?

    Thanks much!

    great rifle. the cylinder in the stock goes through a military style sling to hold that end into the stock. there should be a ring at the end of the forearm which the sling runs through on that end. bought mine years ago and is incredibly reliable. i would like another and am curious where you found it and how much it was if you done mind sharing??
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  • twbaum
    quote:Originally posted by Ellichman
    great rifle. the cylinder in the stock goes through a military style sling to hold that end into the stock. there should be a ring at the end of the forearm which the sling runs through on that end. bought mine years ago and is incredibly reliable. i would like another and am curious where you found it and how much it was if you done mind sharing??


    Sorry for the slow response...

    I purchased mine from a friend who purchased it at a gun show at the Orlando Fair Grounds. It shoots really well, nice tight groups. He sold it to me for what he paid for it (I was standing next to him when he bought it), $350. Am very happy with it and it is a lot of fun to shoot.
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  • b0400879
    TW,
    If it's workin' for ya, then fine.

    However, in my experience IJ's M1s are nothing but miserable piles of shytt. We had 2 of them in the late '70s, & both were purchased new (price was around $200). They started falling apart from the 1st clipful & then went south from there: bandsprings flying off, mags dropping-out, constant jamming, on & on/etc.
    All types of ammo was used & we just gave-up & dumped them both @ the next gunshow.
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  • RCrosby
    Always a good idea to read all previous posts before responding. I believe the p.o.s. issue has already been addressed.
    Sounds like a great little rifle.
    Enjoy!
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