para big hawg
i am looking for any info on this pistol from actual owners/ users, not from someone who heard from someone who heard from someone. info such as overall reliability, accuracy with which loads, which mags, holsters, etc,. Specifically, in relation to a glock 30, how do the griop size measure up? fatter, thinner, longer? i have average hands with long fingers and am wondering about this due to the double stack mag. looking to purchase another pistol in the near future and am trying to make an educated, well informed decision. any and all info will help to narrow the field. thanks
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I haven't fired this alloy frame version, but I have shot both the ordinary all steel Para-double stack 1911s (eg the P14), and the Warthog. (I also slept at a Holiday inn last night).
Since I don't own either gun, and haven't tested one exhaustively against the other, I can't give an honest answer to your question. But since you said you'd take any info, I'll try to share what I can on this, for whatever its worth.
-Para has been making 1911s for quite a while (now in the USA), and in general it builds good guns. Its known for the double-stack 1911s in particular and is probably the leader in those. The Para guns all also have integral feed ramps now, which should help with non-ball ammo.
-In terms of reliability, I'd probably give the edge to the Glock. I've heard of various mag issues with the double-stack 1911s, though probably if you got a good set of mags, you'd be fine.
-My experience with double-stack 1911s (Para and Caspian) is that they have grips that feel like baseball bats. (My hands aren't particularly small, either). This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but personally, I don't particularly care for the grip and therefore, I'm just not that fond of this particular style of gun.
I can see using one in competition where you need lots of .45s on tap. For concealed carry or service use? I'd prefer something else.
-I could tell you that I personally dislike the fat Para grip less than I dislike the fat Glock grip, but I'm not sure how helpful that would be. How a gun feels in the hand is entirely subjective. The only person who can determine if a gun fits you, is you. If you really want to know, the only way is going to be for you to put your hands on an actual gun, and if not shoot it, at least hold it for a while and see how it feels and points. Its best to do this side by side if you can.
-You want accuracy comparison? That's tough, because now you are introducing multiple variable of different individual guns and different types of ammo. Without going there, its probably fair to say that with either gun, the limiting factor in accuracy is probably going to be you and not the gun. In general, the triggers on 1911 guns are (in my opinion) better than those on Glocks making it easier to shoot more accurately (which is a totally different thing than the intrinsic accuracy of the gun).
-Which mags? With the Glock go for factory mags. I don't know enough about 1911 double stack mags to have a recommendation, but I'd guess factory Para mags are probably the best choice.
-Which holster? Whichever one(s) meet your particular needs, be it for competition, duty, etc. You'll probably find a better selection in Glock holsters for service-type work than double-stack 1911 holsters, for whatever that's worth.
-If you're willing to go for a Glock 30 (which holds 11 rounds), then there are several other fairly good .45s out there that hold ("only") 10 rounds that you might also consider, eg the [Edit, stupid me CZ-75B] CZ-97B, or Sig p220, each of which has its own set of strengths.
The CZ in particular lets you go cocked and locked (if you want to), and IMO its a bit nicer in the hand than the other two.
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-I suppose you could also look at an HK .45 as well.
-If accuracy is really a prime concern, then go with the 1911 platform, as there is a whole cottage industry around accurizing it. Ditto for customization.0 -
Mine was a good gun. Shot very well for a para. I own a gun store and try to shoot as much as I can so I can help others make a good choice in buying a gun for themselves. I thought the recoil was a little much on the last few rounds. It did fill the hand and that could be the cause for the felt recoil. I love the 1911 and carry one everyday. Nighthawk T3. The trigger was not the best but it was not bad eather. There are a lot of 1911 makers out there and most are good. I think putting it up against a glock is not fair. Glocks go and keep going. I have one on my ankle every day of every week and love it. G27. The 30SF is the gun to get in my view. The cost is less and you still get 10rds. the recoil is not bad at all and you can hit what you shoot at. The NSP are just changing over to the 21SF for duty and 30SF for backup. I just put 500rds through both and they worked very well, not much recoil. Not as much as the 40s&w. In ending The para is a good gun and so is the glock I dont think you can go wrong eather way. What ever you chose get ammo and shoot, shoot and shoot and most of all have fun and be safe. 0
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