is 380 acp the same as 380 auto??
please let me know..
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Yes. It's also the same as 9X17mm, 9mm short and 9mm Kurz 0 -
Exactly the same! 0 -
ACP means Automatic Colt Pistol- so yes, .380 Auto and .380 Automatic Colt Pistol are same. In addition to ones Spider listed, also called 9mm Corto . 0 -
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Yes but I wouldn't use the hot Spanish Santa Barbara 380 in a straight blowback pistol. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by v35
Yes but I wouldn't use the hot Spanish Santa Barbara 380 in a straight blowback pistol.
[?]Why?
I've shot thousands of rounds of Santa Barbara through my Browning BDA, NAA Guardian, Star Super SM, Remington 51, Walther PPK/s, Browning 1910 and 1922 with no ill effects to me or undue wear to my guns.0 -
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Dogtown Tom
Several pistols you cited were NOT straight blowback pistols.
Santa Barbara ammo chronographs at 18% greater velocity than factory ammo.You can calculate the greater energy the gun's mechanism needs to handle. The NAA is made of 17-4PH stainless and is designed to take it tho recoil has to be unpleasant.
The aluminum framed Browning BDA has been faulted with frame deformation problems from high pressure ammo. The Browning water pistols are old and not designed for high pressure ammo.
I have broken cast parts on the PPKS with high speed loads that increased slide velocity.
The Remington, while very well made, relies on the strength of it's floating breechblock. These have been known to break and you can be SOL trying to find a replacement.
I stand by my statement of not recommending that ammo for most straight blowback handguns.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
Yes. It's also the same as 9X17mm, 9mm short and 9mm Kurz
also seen as 9mm Browning0 -
quote:Originally posted by v35
Dogtown Tom
Several pistols you cited were NOT straight blowback pistols.
Santa Barbara ammo chronographs at 18% greater velocity than factory ammo.You can calculate the greater energy the gun's mechanism needs to handle. The NAA is made of 17-4PH stainless and is designed to take it tho recoil has to be unpleasant.
The aluminum framed Browning BDA has been faulted with frame deformation problems from high pressure ammo. The Browning water pistols are old and not designed for high pressure ammo.
I have broken cast parts on the PPKS with high speed loads that increased slide velocity.
The Remington, while very well made, relies on the strength of it's floating breechblock. These have been known to break and you can be SOL trying to find a replacement.
I stand by my statement of not recommending that ammo for most straight blowback handguns.
"Several"?
Only the Remington and Star. All the others are blowback operated.
Do you have a source for the frame issues with the BDA? I've never heard of any issue with the BDA except for deformation of the feed ramp from certain hollow point bullets. I would believe the same concern would apply to it's sister Beretta 84.0
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