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Rebarrel Rem 700 ADL .30-06

losttrail
Not sure if I will do this but seeking info.

I have a Rem 700 ADL in .30-06, standard 22-inch barrel. Shoots well but not fantastic. Probably haven't found the right handload yet.

I am thinking about getting it rebarreled to 24" for a bit more speed & accuracy.

What would be a fair price for a standard contour, matte finish (if any gunsmiths can do the matte)?

Reputable gunsmiths in the Colorado Springs area?
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  • iwannausername
    Longer barrels only help accuracy (all else being equal) with iron sights, since you'll have a longer sight radius.

    I'd check the crown of the barrel first...


    When it comes to refinishing, you may want the action, barrel, etc. all done at once so it matches nicely...
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  • MIKE WISKEY
    CHANGING A BARREL FROM 22" TO 24" WILL ONLY GAIN YOU 50/100 FPS BUT WILL COST YOU $300/500 DEPENDING ON THE BARREL. THE SHORTER BARRELS ACTUALY SHOOT MORE ACCURATLY IN GENERAL AS THEY ARE STIFFER. IT'S YOUR $$$.
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  • nononsense
    losttrail,

    In order to have a meaningful discussion on topics such as this, you need to define "Shoots well but not fantastic." Without more information this could mean different things to different folks.

    For instance, I just finished shooting in an all custom 7 WSM which is starting out shooting approximately 1/2" groups for a dozen or so groups. Now I think that's pretty good but it will shoot better, I just have to work at getting it there.

    Mike's point is valid for some custom barrels and benchrest stocks but it doesn't mean as much in application to factory sporter stocks.

    I think you need to do some of the obvious things to the rifle such as thoroughly checking it out, scope, crown, trigger, etc. Then I would have the action bedded and free-float the barrel. Pillars would be nice. make sure you have a quality scope which will resolve the target at the distance you want to shoot. A 4x scope will generally not yield the best groups as opposed to having a 12x or more. Make sure the rings and bases are tightened correctly.

    Once you're sure everything is as it should be, go shoot targets. Use a steady bench or shoot prone. Don't try to get good groups off of a crappy support system.

    Best.
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  • losttrail
    Ok, should have give more info.

    Rem 700 ADL, .30-06,
    standard synthetic stock (POS)
    Cabela's Alaskan Guide scope, 3.5-10x50
    Leupold 2-pc base
    Leupold Davetail rings, Extra High

    Right now, geting 1.5"-2", 3-shot groups @ 100

    I believe it is not me, since my Rem 700 BDL in .243 (wood stock), I can cover 5-shot group with a quarter at 100 yrd, using factory ammo.

    Wife's Win 70 in .270, 1"-1.5" @ 100, factory ammo

    I think the first thing I should do is replace the POS synthetic stock. I'm thinking a laminated stock with at least glass bed, possibly pillars.

    Then, maybe this thing just doesn't like factory 180gr. If I can ever find LR primers, maybe I need to work up a load/bullet combo this rifle likes?

    Thanks for the input.
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  • tsr1965
    Like has been suggested, First I would start with the scope. As long as you are going to need to replace it, you might as well check to make sure the bases are LOCTITED down properly. I wouldn't put anything lesser than a Burris FullField II on that rifle.

    Secondly, you are correct in stating that the stoc is a POS. I would replace it with a Hogue over molded one that has the Bedding block already installed. You might want, or probably will have to add the BDL trigger gaurd and floor plate at this time. It is best to skim bed that action into the bedding block, but at first just make sure the front action screw and then the one in the rear are torqued to 50-60 inch-pounds, or 5 foot-pounds. At this time, make sure the barrel is free floating.

    Thirdly, you want to have someone that knows what they are doing adjust your trigger. You want set fot 3-4 pounds, and as little sear engagement and over travel as you can get safely.

    Try this, and see how she goes...I am guessing that you could have already got a 1MOA or less shooter. The scope is the big part of it.

    Unless you step up to a 30-06AI, and a 26" tube, you will not see much of an increase in speed...at that with the 26, you might find an extra 200 fps. There are several good barrel makers, who would install for you also. Nononsense has a great hand at helping people find them...if they ask him for help.

    Best
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  • sandwarrior
    losttrail,

    As you said the stock is one place I'd look. I don't know much about the Cabela's scopes, but I don't own one. I do own some pretty nice optics. Within certain parameters it is very true you get what you pay for with optics. The 2 piece bases tend to allow some torsion with a scope and are therefore less desirable than a one piece base. But that's when the scope is installed correctly and lapped in. And, you're looking to shave off 1/4-1/8th of an inch. Incorrectly installed scopes can be a major cause of innaccuracy. One thing that helps on the bench, not necessarily in the field, is having the scope as low to the stock as possible. It reduces the amount of deflection caused by not having the scope straight up and down when firing. It isn't always practical in the field. Having the stock set up so the eye comes down behind the scope the same each and every time is critical. In your case parallax shouldn't be a problem.

    Anyhow, keep looking for LR primers then try a few different loads. Factory ammo can vary quite a bit, especially in a round as common as the .30-06

    If you thought about rebarreling I wouldn't do it until you could get your hands on some primers and start loading again to match the rifle. A rebarrel and a new stock, bedded properly and fit to your face, would help tremendously. If you want to spend the money.
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  • He Dog
    I too would look to getting that scope off the extra high mounts unless you have a neck like a giraffe. Loosing your cheekweld streching up to get behind the scope can be a bear on accuracy and consistency.
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  • losttrail
    The reason for the Extra High rings is to get the scope back far enough to get the proper eye relief. The 50mm bell hits the barrel otherwise. As it is, the objective bell is only about .030" off the barrel.

    Maybe I should see about moving it onto a different rifle?

    Can't afford a new scope any time in the near future.
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  • Frontiersman101
    My uncle in Flagstaff is a barrel smith. I don't know how much he charges, but he made a barrel for my 700 and it shoots fantastic.
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  • edharold
    I wouldn't do anything until I'd check out several different cartridges.
    I have USRA Model 70 that won't shoot 180 grains at all, I checked 150 and 165 grain cartridges. The 150 was better, the 165 ballistic tip shoots better than I can.
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  • SP45
    $125.00 to rebarrel (plus the price of a new barrel) which includes chambering, headspace and test firing. It is best to talk with the gunsmith to determine what exactly you want to change and what your expectations are. It is very simple to send it to a gunsmith and for him to send it back when finished.
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