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sar, wasr or other akm?

auto436658
was considering the sar, wasr or other akm, from what i have read and seen they appear to be accurate, dependable and durable and felt sturdy when held, although a basic akm military rifle, the only real difference that i noticed was the dimples in the receiver over the mag well?
the saiga akm conversions look okay and seem to be well made, but do not appear to be actual akm rifles since they are converted from the saiga rifle and are not fully interchangeable and i already have some arsenal, norinco and polytech ak's some milled and some stamped.
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  • lil debi
    given the choice i would lean toward the sar given the varients you already own. a wasr would be a step down for sure, due to low quality control on the wasr canted sights and gasblocks. plus the dimples was a design to strenghten the magwell opening area of the akm .wasr's were designed for single stack mags and when rails are thinned to accept double stack mags it weakens the receiver but since it wont see combat its likely a nonissue but you can't beat the price of a wasr. saiga's are high quality but built for sporting configuration and take quite a bit of work to reconfigure to military
    appearence i consider a arsenal milled at the top of the food chain of the variants
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  • auto436658
    given the consideration to checking for the obvious canted sights and canted gas ports and such; when i handled the akm rifles they seemed like sturdy, bare bones, inexpensive, military semi auto rifles to me.

    edit:
    not seeing alot of sars, are they being imported or are the only imports from romania now the wasr?

    do the sar or wasr rifles accept drum mags?
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  • tsr1965
    Go for the SAR. The WASR's are thesinglestack models with the hollowed out mag wells to accept the double stack. They kind of look like bubba done it. Those are the ones that do not have the dimples to support the doublestack magazines also. Stay away from anything that says Hesse, Blackthorne, or Vulcan on them, and the ones being assembled by Century Arms International(WASR's), are prone to canted sights. Their quality is hit and miss...eventhough they can be made to be reliable...I had one that I had to deburr the hammer and disconnector on.

    I do agree, that having an Arsenal in your arsenal(punn intended), kind of makes any of the one you listed seem smallish or lessor.

    Best

    EDIT 1:

    Yes...anything that will accept the doublestack magazine will also accept the drum.

    EDIT 2:
    auto436658

    You might think about doing an EDIT to your original post, instead of doing a new post to the thread. That way you can answer everyone, and get more answers back, as this forum usually locks out the thread at 10 posts...just a suggestion.
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  • auto436658
    yeah, like i said they seemed okay when i have checked them out before with no noticeable problems and they were very sturdy and even the fit and finish wasn't bad. i didn't get to fire them though, but from what i have heard and seen they seem okay for a basic military akm, although i have heard about the canting sight and gas port issues however i haven't seen it and so i would have to insist that was checked first.

    what would you say the best akm would be then polytech, norinco, arsenal?

    why does there seem to be so few romanian sar rifles?

    tsr1965, read your emails, no problems its all good.
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  • v35
    If you already have stamped Norincos and Polytechs, you are familiar with dimpled receivers and can see without explanation what they do.
    What are you really asking and what do you want to do with another AK semi auto that you can't do with those you "have"?
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  • auto436658
    quote:Originally posted by v35
    If you already have stamped Norincos and Polytechs, you are familiar with dimpled receivers and can see without explanation what they do.
    What are you really asking and what do you want to do with another AK semi auto that you can't do with those you "have"?


    yeah, that wasnt a question it was a statement as to the differences that i noticed between the sar and wasr.
    well, norinco is chinese and the sar and wasr are romanian and being that i dont "have" any romanian akms i thought that they might be nice european akm's to own perhaps.
    hope that answers your questions.
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  • auto436658
    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    Go for the SAR. The WASR's are thesinglestack models with the hollowed out mag wells to accept the double stack. They kind of look like bubba done it. Those are the ones that do not have the dimples to support the doublestack magazines also. Stay away from anything that says Hesse, Blackthorne, or Vulcan on them, and the ones being assembled by Century Arms International(WASR's), are prone to canted sights. Their quality is hit and miss...eventhough they can be made to be reliable...I had one that I had to deburr the hammer and disconnector on.

    I do agree, that having an Arsenal in your arsenal(punn intended), kind of makes any of the one you listed seem smallish or lessor.

    Best

    EDIT 1:

    Yes...anything that will accept the doublestack magazine will also accept the drum.

    EDIT 2:
    auto436658

    You might think about doing an EDIT to your original post, instead of doing a new post to the thread. That way you can answer everyone, and get more answers back, as this forum usually locks out the thread at 10 posts...just a suggestion.

    yeah, i realize that, but i am good having most of the info that i needed.
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  • drobs
    The nice thing about the newer wasr's is they have all the evil features - bayonette lug and threaded barrel with slant brake. Some of them have Tapco G2 fire control groups already installed.

    As long as you can check the barrels for cant, you should be fine with a Wasr.

    The Sar rifles are no longer imported.

    Since you already have AK's in 7.62x39. You might want to look into a 5.45x39 rifle. That ammo is still significantly cheaper than 7.62x39.
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  • auto436658
    there are some nice russian akm's in 7.62x39mm that i could consider as well that seem nice, of course they are more expensive.
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  • redman.com1
    dont spend a arm and a leg. prices on ak's have dropped like crazy. i just sold a very nice sar1 for $500 and that took me a month and had to sell to a friend. wasr 10's are down to $550 new. if you are trying to sell one you will play hell getting $450. sks's are moving faster? my buying price now for a used one is $350 - $400.
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