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Shipping reqirements on 1884 Trapdoor

taperloc
I am going to be putting an 1884 marked Springfield 45-70 Trapdoor up for auction on GB.
I don't think I need to require an FFL or C & R license to ship this rifle.
Am I right about this?
Do I need proof of age from a purchaser and if so, what age, 18 years old, 21 years old?
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  • Spider7115
    As an antique, it requires no FFL under Federal Law. However, some places like New Jersey require it to be shipped to an FFL. State in your auction that the buyer accepts full responsibility to comply with their state and local laws.

    Please post your link when you list it as I like Trapdoor Springfields.
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  • 11b6r
    As the man said, per Federal law, firearm made prior to 1899 is an antique, and is NOT considered a firearm. I would still require proof that buyer is at least 18 yrs old.
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  • redman.com1
    its always best to ask for proof of 21 years. just my opinion.
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  • toolman9mm
    i'm almost sure that the model # is 1884.....it was made from 1885-1890...not sure if this matters or not...
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  • 11b6r
    Yes, it matters. If that particular firearm was made prior to 1899, by Fedeeral law it is an antique, and is NOT a firearm. If it was made in 1899 or 1900, it IS a firearm, and transfers across a state line MUST go thru a FFL, either 01 Dealer or 03 C&R Collector.

    Fed law defines antique firearm as being made prior to 1-1-1899, or a muzzleloader, or replica of an antique that is a muzzleloader (or replica that uses ammo not available in general US market)

    (sorry- typo- date in red corrected)
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  • givette
    quote:Originally posted by 11b6r
    Yes, it matters. If that particular firearm was made prior to 1899, by Fedeeral law it is an antique, and is NOT a firearm. If it was made in 1899 or 1900, it IS a firearm, and transfers across a state line MUST go thru a FFL, either 01 Dealer or 03 C&R Collector.

    Fed law defines antique firearm as being made prior to 1-1-1890, or a muzzleloader, or replica of an antique that is a muzzleloader (or replica that uses ammo not available in general US market)
    Toolman: the dates you quoted as you said "do not matter". Except for New Jersey.

    11b6r: Item in red..may want to amend the post (correct the typo).

    Best, Joe
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  • Spider7115
    All original Springfield "Trapdoors" were made prior to 1/1/99 so are legally antiques. However, this does not apply to modern replicas since they fire conventional .45-70 cartridges.
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  • 11b6r
    Givette- thanx, coreccted it. Brain dead or fat fingers, unsure which.

    As long as the rifle was made prior to 1899, is is not a firearm under Federal law. New Jersey- eh- fuggedaboudid- dey got der own laws....
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