Webley MK VI .455 vs .45acp?
Hi again gun loving peoples!
I've got a 1916 Webley MK VI that's had the cylinder shaved to accept .45acp round rather than the .455 it originally came with. It's supposed to use half moon clips with the .45acp ammo. I've heard that it's not a good idea to use the .45 ammo due to higher pressures as opposed to the .455 rounds. It's a very solidly built gun so how likely is it for me or the gun to suffer damage if .45acp rounds are used? Any help?
I've got a 1916 Webley MK VI that's had the cylinder shaved to accept .45acp round rather than the .455 it originally came with. It's supposed to use half moon clips with the .45acp ammo. I've heard that it's not a good idea to use the .45 ammo due to higher pressures as opposed to the .455 rounds. It's a very solidly built gun so how likely is it for me or the gun to suffer damage if .45acp rounds are used? Any help?
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Best advice is to have a gunsmith check your Webley. Standard .45 ACP FMJ ammo should be fine. Lots of Webleys were imported in the 1950's. By now we would know if there were any problems with FMJ ammo.
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Folks have been using 45 ACP in 455 ever since the end of WWII - I don't think you'll have any problems using standard velocity type ACP ammo out of the 455. I wouldn't stuff it with anything heavy or exciting, but for 230 grains @ 800 fps stuff I think you're fine. 0 -
Thanks for the quick replies, I certainly won't overcook the ammo with any +p stuff so I'll stick with the standard velocity .45 and try and do my best Indiana Jones impression one of these days...or not.
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Been shooting .45 APC in mine for years. Standard velocity ammo should not hurt it. Thes things are built like a tank. I keep Black Tallons in mine for my house gun. Fun to shoot and light recoil with standard loads. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by surfscotti
Thanks for the quick replies, I certainly won't overcook the ammo with any +p stuff so I'll stick with the standard velocity .45 and try and do my best Indiana Jones impression one of these days...or not.
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All I can recall 'Ol Indy drawing from his holster was a large frame Smith & Wesson. Perhaps .44 or .45 Hand Ejector, or the triple-lock "New Century". It's one of the three, but hard to tell which one exactly, because the prop people messed with it some. Scene was the "ninja" getting ready to do battle with Indy, and he drew, and shot him. Maybe a MKIV in a different Indy movie? Dunno. Best, Joe0 -
Gents,
Maybe this Indy page will help out:
http://www.indygear.com/igguns.html
"The Webley Green
For many years, it was almost considered fact that Indiana Jones' sidearm in Last Crusade was the venerable Webley Mark VI revolver, a legendary pistol used by British troops throughout World War I and ultimately seeing combat in World War II as well. The pistol also plays a prominent role in the film, Lawrence of Arabia.
However, relatively recent discoveries, thanks to the clarity of DVD images, have revealed that the pistol is actually the more rare Webley Green. The Webley Green is marginally larger than the Mark VI and has a distinctive "bird's head" grip that distinguishes it from the Mark VI, which has a squared off grip. It is a heavy hinged frame gun, originally issued in .455 caliber.
Thanks to Webley Green owner and IndyGear member Rook, Indiana Jones' Webley Green is known to be a later manufactured example.
"Indy's version is a later manufacture. The serial number is, I believe, around 11,000. There are design similarities with the Webley Mark III, and some small parts are interchangeable between them. My pistol says 'WG' ARMY Model and is chambered for .455/.476. The cylinder is slightly longer than the standard .455 cylinder found on the Webley Mark VI, so the cylinders are not [interchangeable] between these pistols. The most noticeable differences between the Mark VI and the WG are the pronounced bird's head grip and the longer grip frame with extra space in front of the trigger guard, although I have also seen WG's with a flat bottom, 'cowboy' style grip. Also, unlike the Mark VI and Mark IV, the WG trigger guard is integrated with the grip frame and is not bolted into place nor removable."
The Webley Green was supposedly manufactured from 1885 to 1912, with some models chambered for the .450/.455 "Mark I" cartridge while others, including Indy's, were chambered for the .455/.475 Mark II cartridge. Many firearms dealers refer to the Webley Green as a 'Webley 1896 W.G. Army Revolver.'
"Serial numbers, as far as I can tell, offer no clue as to when pistols manufactured and were chambered for what round. I've seen "1896" pistols chambered in .450/.455 with serial numbers as high as 21,000!""
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It has been done for years, but there is no doubt you are treading on the safety margin of the gun. A .45 ACP standard load generates more than proof pressure for .455 Webley. 0
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