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  • raylibby
    I have a Winchester 1895, all original, serial number 65927 with a "B" below the number. .30, 24" barrel, lyman site, checkered fiddleback walnut stock, barrel 90% blue, Receiver and magazine 35% blue. I'd like an estimate on how much it's worth.

    Thanks,
    Ray

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  • GuvamintCheese
    quote:Originally posted by raylibby
    quote:Originally posted by cartod
    Has the wood been sanded below the metal?


    I don't believe so, where would I look?. The wood at the barrel is proud of the metal as well as the stock. This has been in my family since new and it was a hunting rifle, I don't think it has been altered in any way. Thanks for the reply.
    Well then it looks like a pretty well used 1895 Deluxe gun. Bert will be along soon to help put a dollar figure on it, but if its a family heirloom I would hold onto it. That is one great looking piece of wood!
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  • MIKE WISKEY
    the butt pad has been added (ie. non-original)and the checkering either worn or sanded off. the stock has been refinished as well

    "Why do you think it's been refinished?"...........THE CHECKERING WAS ORIGINALY SHARP/POINTED AND IS NOW WORN SMOOTH ON THE TOPS OF THE DIAMONDS. THE STOCK FINISH DOESN'T SHOW THIS MUCH WEAR, IT MAY BE JUST THE LIGHTING BUT WITHOUT BETTER PIX'S I'D SAY IT HAS BEEN REFINISHED.
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  • raylibby
    quote:Originally posted by MIKE WISKEY
    the butt pad has been added (ie. non-original)and the checkering either worn or sanded off. the stock has been refinished as well


    You are probably correct about the butt pad, it reads "White-Line" as the brand. The checkering, however, is all intact and fairly well defined. I think it's a trick of the lighting in the picture that makes it look like it's worn.

    Why do you think it's been refinished?
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by raylibby
    quote:Originally posted by MIKE WISKEY
    the butt pad has been added (ie. non-original)and the checkering either worn or sanded off. the stock has been refinished as well


    You are probably correct about the butt pad, it reads "White-Line" as the brand. The checkering, however, is all intact and fairly well defined. I think it's a trick of the lighting in the picture that makes it look like it's worn.

    Why do you think it's been refinished?


    It's Pachmyar White line circa WWII. The whiteline was added to the Pachmyar line of buttpads shortly before then, some say as early as 1932.
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  • raylibby
    Bert? I seem to have gotten buried here, I hope I'm not going against forum rules by bumping this up.

    Ray
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by raylibby
    Bert? I seem to have gotten buried here, I hope I'm not going against forum rules by bumping this up.

    Ray


    Hello Ray,

    I was in Cody, WY when you posted this topic, and on my way home all day yesterday (955 miles in 14 hrs 40 min).

    Your old family Model 1895 Sporting Rifle is not "all original" or "unaltered", therefore, its collector value has been diminished to some degree.

    The first thing we need to establish is the specific caliber/cartridge (I suspect that it is a 30 U.S. (a.k.a. 30/40 Krag).

    The second thing that needs to be determined is the status of the butt stock... i.e. was it cut-down to install the recoil pad?

    I do not believe that the stocks have been sanded or refinished, they just show a considerable amount of handling and wear.
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  • raylibby
    Burt, I appreciate your time.

    Yes, .30 caliber.

    I have added another picture of the butt. This is the top and it looks like some kind of a wood filler has been added in the area of the small triangle, maybe where the original butt pad was? Other than that I really don't know if it has been cut down, but it doesn't look like it to me. Neither my Dad or my Grandfather were particularly handy (with woodworking, not shooting!) so I would have my doubts.

    Thanks,
    Ray
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  • Bert H.
    Hello Ray,

    Thre Model 1895 was made in four different .30 caliber cartridges (30/40 Krag, 303 British, 30-03 Govt, and 30-06 Govt)... exactly how is the caliber marked on your rifle (a picture of the caliber stamp would answer the question)?

    The butt stock was fortunately not cut down, so it is possible to restore it to original configuration (though finding an original smooth steel or hard rubber butt plate that fits properly will not be an easy task).
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  • raylibby
    I added a new image of stampings.

    Thanks,
    Ray
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  • Geri
    I may be wrong, but I think it is a 30-03
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  • Ambrose
    Geri is right: It's a .30/03. If it just read .30 U.S., it'd be a .30-40, but it's marked .30 U.S. MOD. 1903--that makes it a .30/03. My 54 Winchester is marked .30 Gov't '06. .30 Gov't may be .30-40 but the '06 part makes it a .30/06.
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  • Bert H.
    OK, the question is answered... you have a 30-03, which is quite some bit rarer than the much more common 30 U.S. (30/40).

    If it were my rifle, I would hunt down an original Model 1895 butt plate and restore it to original. Due to the overall graded condition, this rifle is not high dollar collectable, but it is still a collectable Winchester. My guess is that it would sell somewhere in the $1800 - $2400 range.
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