glenfeild 22. problems
My cousing just got a used glenfeild, marlin model 60, 22. semi auto for his young son. got it home found out someone had loaded the tube full of 22 shorts and had two jammed so tight the bolt wouldn't move. to make a long story short he asked me if I would look at it, after he took it apart and got the shells out. he said it would only shoot single shot.
got it yesterday it would cycle shell manually, pick them up from the mag tube, chamber them, and eject, but it would only shoot about every other one. now it will not cock the trigger no matter how far you pull the bolt back, manually. any guesses would the trigger sear be worn, or think it is a problem with the bolt? any tricks to taking it apart? I was just getting ready to tear into it and didn't want to do something dumb. and no he will not be taking it back, he only paid $20 for it. just wondering if any of you have had this problem and maybe there was a simple cure. and it has sat for 20+ years, but I have cleaned it as good as possible without tearing it down.
got it yesterday it would cycle shell manually, pick them up from the mag tube, chamber them, and eject, but it would only shoot about every other one. now it will not cock the trigger no matter how far you pull the bolt back, manually. any guesses would the trigger sear be worn, or think it is a problem with the bolt? any tricks to taking it apart? I was just getting ready to tear into it and didn't want to do something dumb. and no he will not be taking it back, he only paid $20 for it. just wondering if any of you have had this problem and maybe there was a simple cure. and it has sat for 20+ years, but I have cleaned it as good as possible without tearing it down.
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Something may have been bent while the shorts were being taken out.
Otherwise, give it a good cleaning. I got one that was all gunked up, took the action out of the stock and hosed it down/out with carb cleaner and then hosed it down with remoil. No issues, repeat it every 500 rounds or so...0 -
sorta my guess, he seems to fix everything with a scredriver and a hammer [;)], guess I'll go find out.
It was something stupid afterall, there is a small threaded bushing for the front trigger guard screw. it had fallen down and was stopping the trigger from cocking. guess you have to start it first then lay the barrell and action in stock and then put the other two screws in. anyway it was a quick easy fix, and will make his son happy to know it works now.0 -
Just make sure that the action is scrubbed up and cleaned well, with very little oil or lube. The 22LR is one of the dirtiest cartridges out there, and will gum up a semi auto in a short while. It is amazing how some of them run for thousands of rounds without being cleaned.
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the action group will come out easy (2 pins front and rear), do NOT take this group apart any further (held together by 'c' clips), take the bolt out and give it a good cleaning. check the action spring, replaced if 'kinked'. 0 -
Fix it, sell it, and get a 10-22. With the removable clip, no more worries about a round being possibly "hidden" in the tubular magazine.
My preference for new and young shooters is a bolt action, followed by a semi- with removable clip. Tubular magazines are on the bottom of my list. JOMO.0 -
The problem has been solved, so there isn't much more to add here.
In general, I'd say the Glenfield/Marlin 60 is usually fairly reliable. Literally over ten million of these have been sold in the USA, making them probably the most popular .22 rifle ever, and this didn't happen because the guns "suck".
If they start to stick, a good hosing with gunscrubber/brake cleaner usually does the trick. I think you want a TINY amount of oil in the action for lubrication, but not too much, as it contributes to fouling. Also, like many semi-auto guns, some of these prefer high-velocity ammo for reliable cycling.
I wouldn't spend too much time/energy/money trying to fix up a broken one, because there are a zillion used ones out there for under $100.
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Fix it, sell it, and get a 10-22. With the removable clip, no more worries about a round being possibly "hidden" in the tubular magazine.
My preference for new and young shooters is a bolt action, followed by a semi- with removable clip. Tubular magazines are on the bottom of my list. JOMO.
This is getting away from the original question, but I'm not sure why you would be worried about a round being hidden in the tubular magazine.
Most of these guns (indeed most tubular mag .22s I've seen), have a brightly colored magazine follower. If you see that follower in the chamber with the action open, you know the magazine is empty. In that respect, its really not any different than any other magazine.
While I do agree that bolt action rifles (or any action type that prevents rapid wasting of ammo) are probably a better choice for new shooters than semi-automatic ones, tubular magazines have several advantages over standard detachable box magazines:
-Generally higher capacity than most standard 5 or 10 round .22 box mags.
-Harder to lose the magazine (eg you can't accidentally eject it).
-They'll reliably feed .22 short, long, AND long rifle rounds. Now, if you have a semi-automatic gun, it may not reliably cycle shorter rounds even manually working the action, but most bolt-action or other manual repeater guns will cycle these fine.
-Fixed 10+ round .22 tube mags are legal in some jurisdictions that explicitly ban detachable high caps.
-Faster to UNLOAD, as you can remove the follower to dump all the rounds at once.
The only real disadvantage to a tube mag that I see are that they are relatively slow to reload.0
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