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  • clickclick
    What is a beretta 3901 12ga delta waterfowl gun #57 worth?
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  • Laredo Lefty
    Generally speaking if a gun was made with a serial number, it is illegal to possess it if the number has been ground off.

    Many guns were made before manufacturers started using serial numbers so they are ok to own as they never had a number.
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  • Spider7115
    If the serial number has been ground off, it is against federal law to either possess it or transfer it. Your Colt would have been serial numbered.
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  • givette
    quote:Originally posted by clickclick
    Hello all... I had asked on the forums about a 1918 Colt .45 revolver I was putting up for auction, trying to ID it as it was missing markings (I am selling for a client). The topic can be viewed with photos here: http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=376567

    I sold this revolver on GB auctions & it was shipped to an FFL. They said they cannot accept it as the serial number has been ground off. It is a shame as it really is a nice revolver!

    My question is... is it legal to sell a C&R handgun with the numbers ground off? Can I advertise that I will only ship to a C&R? Also, I may just buy it myself if I shouldn't sell it, but could I get in trouble for the same reason? I am not familiar with the laws & any advice would be appreciated!

    Hot potato. It's illegal to posess a firearm with an altered SerNo. Do not retreive this firearm. Retreival is posession. Do whatever you have to do to get the firearm back to the client without physically taking posession of said firearm yourself. Best, Joe
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  • mark christian
    Shipping a firearm with the serial number removed, altered or obliterated is a felony...Don't mess with it!
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  • clickclick
    I was afraid of the responses I would get... It is being returned to me. Can I part it out & sell the parts? Or maybe just make wall art out of it? [:D]
    I am just curious but I am sure my client will just have to take it back.
    Thanks all, greatly appreciated - especially when it comes to the law!
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  • tsr1965
    quote:Originally posted by clickclick
    I was afraid of the responses I would get... It is being returned to me. Can I part it out & sell the parts? Or maybe just make wall art out of it? [:D]
    I am just curious but I am sure my client will just have to take it back.
    Thanks all, greatly appreciated - especially when it comes to the law!


    You should HEED the advice given to you. It is a 10 year prison term, and according to the law and BATFE possesion is proof that the assumption is made you were the one that defaced it...even if you did not. I am not sure of your financial standings, but you will loose your license, and spend 10's of thousands of dollars fighting to keep your firearm rights...if you avoid prison time...if you make it thru this, a good rule of thumb...accept NO firearm with out a serial number...even though some may have been made that do not have them.

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  • clickclick
    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    quote:Originally posted by clickclick
    I was afraid of the responses I would get... It is being returned to me. Can I part it out & sell the parts? Or maybe just make wall art out of it? [:D]
    I am just curious but I am sure my client will just have to take it back.
    Thanks all, greatly appreciated - especially when it comes to the law!


    You should HEED the advice given to you. It is a 10 year prison term, and according to the law and BATFE possesion is proof that the assumption is made you were the one that defaced it...even if you did not. I am not sure of your financial standings, but you will loose your license, and spend 10's of thousands of dollars fighting to keep your firearm rights...if you avoid prison time...if you make it thru this, a good rule of thumb...accept NO firearm with out a serial number...even though some may have been made that do not have them.

    Best


    Thanks all, point well taken!
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  • upjumtddebl
    strip the gun as soon as you receive it and cut the frame in several parts. sad, but you really have no other sensible choice. done is done just my 2 cents
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  • RCrosby
    Back in the 60's I had an M-1 Carbine that had walked out of the Winchester plant in N.H. sans serial number during WW-II. I was told by a law enforcement officer (don't recall, maybe state police, maybe knew what he was talking about, maybe not) that I could have a serial number struck on the frame and all would be fine.
    Yes? Once but not now? Never?
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  • tsr1965
    quote:Originally posted by RCrosby
    Back in the 60's I had an M-1 Carbine that had walked out of the Winchester plant in N.H. sans serial number during WW-II. I was told by a law enforcement officer (don't recall, maybe state police, maybe knew what he was talking about, maybe not) that I could have a serial number struck on the frame and all would be fine.
    Yes? Once but not now? Never?



    If I am not mistaken, before the Gun Control Act of 1968, a serial number was not a needed item on some items. However...the serial number is applied only once if it is applied...it is not like taking a pencil and writing a number, erasing it, and then writing another. If the ORIGINAL number is removed...it is ILLEGAL...even if the original number is restamped. If a gun originally had no number, then how do ya know that?...especially if it was professionally refinnished?

    The original poster keeps dancing around sound advice...He was told not to auction that piece, and to give back to his "client". They are just campainging to be Bubba's rubber ducky at the federal lock up...or are charter members of the idiots-r-us group.
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