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Identifying WW II bolt action rifles

ryans63
These used to be my grandpa's rifle he picked up during World War II. What make/model they are? Where can I find information about them?

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  • Grasshopper
    top one late war 7.7 type 99. Second one has dust cover so probably earlier model of the 99.---Fatstrat will be along to confirm or correct..[:)]..nambu
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  • quickmajik
    Could the bottom one be a 38th year?
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  • allen griggs
    In other words, they are Japanese.
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  • Spider7115
    This website will help you identify the Japanese markings: http://www.radix.net/~bbrown/japanese_markings.html
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  • Hawk Carse
    Yes, Japanese. Was Grandpa in the service in the Pacific?

    Better pictures, better pictures.

    The bottom one appears to still have its dust cover, which is uncommon.
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  • ryans63
    He was in the pacific, calvary



    quote:Originally posted by Hawk Carse
    Yes, Japanese. Was Grandpa in the service in the Pacific?

    Better pictures, better pictures.

    The bottom one appears to still have its dust cover, which is uncommon.
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  • gary wray
    ryans63...Spider has given you a good website to do your homework on your two Arisaka rifles. Go over them carefully to see if the numbers match. You might also check the cover on the bottom rifle to see if the very small number around the lip of the cover matches the rifle number. If so, would help the value as most Japanese soldiers ditched the rifle cover as it made too much noise, so finding one numbered to the rifle is rather rare. Can't really tell from your photos but the top rifle does look like a Type 99, 7.7 caliber. Thanks goes to your grandfather for his service to our country. Good shooting!
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  • Fatstrat
    You should check both to see if all visible numbers (on bolt/other parts) match the last 3 of serial on receiver. Are Mums (flower on top of receiver) present/ defaced or ground off? This means a lot.
    Untouched Mum means likely a battlefield pickup. Defaced or ground means rifle acquired from post war piles set out for homeward bound soldier souvineers. Likely was still battle used. But not considered a battlefield pickup.
    Try to find out if Grandpa kept his issued "bringhome papers" on these rifles. They will tell when/where he got them. And ADD to value.
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  • beantownshootah
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    Calvary is in Jerusalem.

    Cavalry was in the military.

    If you want to get picky, specifically, "Calvary" refers to the hill where Jesus of Nazareth was crucified. ("Calvary" is from "calavarium" = "skull"). There is quite a bit of historical controversy as to the true location of this site, and whether or not it was in the city limits of Old Jerusalem. If not, it was certainly close.

    "Cavalry" refers to soldiers on horses, though the term has been adapted to modern mechanized fighting forces that perform the same role of rapid advance movement (eg jeeps, tanks, helicopters, etc).

    Anyway, the point is just to put up these various pictures of Arisaka rifles!:

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  • 11b6r
    Here is some more info on the Arisaka rifles. Scroll down the left side, click to open up a lot more info. http://surplusrifle.com/
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  • captkirk3@dslextreme.com
    Heres what You need to look at for info on the ARISAKA....
    .................<http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl22-e.htm>.......... I used <Google> to pull the info...wanted to make sure the address was correct and still working....Best....
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