Glock 23 failures?
Anyone familiar with incidents of barrel lug or locking block pin failure/damage with G23's?
A recent alert from a Deleware LE agency due to having their second pistol in four months completely shear a barrel lug has brought to light similar reports from other agencies.
This DE outfit's lug failures occurred four months apart with 2 out of 17 department owned pistols (serials CVM460US and CVM478US). During both incidents they were firing their standard training ammunition (Speer Lawman 155gr TMJ) but from different lot numbers. These pistols were reported to be pretty high mileage, but had been restricted to a diet of this training ammunition and their Speer Gold-Dot 155gr JHP issued duty round.
They're relating that their alert has brought feedback from other agencies who have also experienced both locking block issues and bent or sheared locking block pins on their G23's. These agencies are saying Glock is dealing with the pin issue by refitting their pistols with oversize items.
In one of these reports, a small federal agency has reported 4 barrel lug failures out of a batch of only 175 G23 pistols. I have no information on the age or serial number range of these guns.
I'm really not trying to start a Glock bash fest with this, just seeking any knowledge of similar incidents or any manufacturer notifications to G23 owners people here might be aware of.
EDIT: I have contact info for the DE agency's ordnance officer/armorer for any LE personnel who can give input on this issue.
A recent alert from a Deleware LE agency due to having their second pistol in four months completely shear a barrel lug has brought to light similar reports from other agencies.
This DE outfit's lug failures occurred four months apart with 2 out of 17 department owned pistols (serials CVM460US and CVM478US). During both incidents they were firing their standard training ammunition (Speer Lawman 155gr TMJ) but from different lot numbers. These pistols were reported to be pretty high mileage, but had been restricted to a diet of this training ammunition and their Speer Gold-Dot 155gr JHP issued duty round.
They're relating that their alert has brought feedback from other agencies who have also experienced both locking block issues and bent or sheared locking block pins on their G23's. These agencies are saying Glock is dealing with the pin issue by refitting their pistols with oversize items.
In one of these reports, a small federal agency has reported 4 barrel lug failures out of a batch of only 175 G23 pistols. I have no information on the age or serial number range of these guns.
I'm really not trying to start a Glock bash fest with this, just seeking any knowledge of similar incidents or any manufacturer notifications to G23 owners people here might be aware of.
EDIT: I have contact info for the DE agency's ordnance officer/armorer for any LE personnel who can give input on this issue.
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This can't possibly have happened.
After all, according to Herr Glock, Glock pistols are "perfect". [}:)]0 -
on our local news channel one night there was a report of a cop shop in winter park florida that was having some very strange and "hurtful" problems with their glocks. the triggers were "blowing out" of the glocks entirely causing laserations to the officers fingers. the triggers literally hit the floor! i understand the conceptive design of glock pistols, but having worked in a machine shop for just over five years, it seems to me that any firearm manufactured from plastic and steel, is doomed to fail at some point. just my 5+ years of machine shop wisdom/experience and 2 cents. best 0 -
If you Google "catastrophic malfunction" you will get alot of info on Glock failures. I have been doing some reading on this and have concluded that the failures are due mostly to the design of the pistol itself. The Glock (and some others such as the Springfield XD)are striker fired pistols and my understanding is the design allows the gun to fired if still slightly out of battery. If this happens, the resr and bottom of the cartridge is unsupported and the case can rupture. The rupture would occur and the polymer frame will give under the pressure, hence a "kaboom" as they called them on the web sites. It also discusses that Glock warns owners not to shoot lead bullets as they are more prone to sticking and causing this reaction. I don't think this is strictly a Glock issue as much as it is an issue with polymer framed striker fired pistols of various brands from what I have read. 0 -
The pin issue could be a bad batch of parts. Metal is not up to snuff when they leave quite possibly. Many gun companies have had their problems, and this will tell you what kind of company Glock really is. 0
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