Easier slide for women
My wife wants a small automatic pistol, but the ones she has shot are very hard for her to work the slide. Any suggestions on a quality, reliable 9mm or .380 auto that may be easier then others to cock?
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Also smaller guns are going to have heavier springs along with more recoil. Larger gun may help, not sure what you are shooting now. Many times people think smaller guns are better for smaller people and dont take things like that into account.
One way that is taught to teach weaker people how to cycle a auto is by holding the gun by the slide in the weak hand. With the weak arm locked straight, and holding the slide use the strong hand to push the grip forward.
Another, and maybe a better choice would be a .38 revolver.0 -
While things like the tip up barrels can help with initial loading, IF a person could not clear a stoppage, that REALLY would not be my choice. Have spent some years teaching female soldiers to "rack" a 1911A1, and it CAN be done by most people as a "brisk" movement. However, if your lady has real problems, would strongly suggest a S&W Mdl 36 or it's equivalent. 0 -
+1 Nwcid,
With a little practice I'd be surprised if this didn't work for her.
Technique is everything.0 -
You might make her familiar with the weapon.If the firearm has a 10 rd. mag.. shoot 8 or 9 rds, drop the mag and replace it. No slide work needed. My wife has a FNP-9 handy. 17 rds of 9mm should scare off anything. After 13-15 shot, change the mag. Then the gun is fully ready again. 0 -
Usually i pack a gun with one in the pipe, safetied. When the mags empty its as simple as dropping the mag, replacing it and pressing the slide release, no real slide work involved.
a pistol like the Beretta 85 or Taurus PT-58 have griping cuts in the front of the slide. This can be used by holding the front of the slide with the support hand and pushing forward with the fireing hand, and pulling backward with the support hand. I'd recomend either one.
For most handguns, performing a tactical reload as select fire discribes takes more force to lock the mag then shooting the gun empty and replaceing the mag while the slide is locked back.0 -
Slide techniques for women by a woman at:
http://www.corneredcat.com/RunGun/rack.aspx
I will add, that if a gun has an exposed hammer, you can cock the hammer first to get the mainspring out of the way and only fight the recoil spring racking the slide.
Consider the application. Some guns are not manipulated very often, and she might be willing to grit her teeth and pull hard on a gun that otherwise suits her.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Hawk Carse
Slide techniques for women by a woman at:
http://www.corneredcat.com/RunGun/rack.aspx
I will add, that if a gun has an exposed hammer, you can cock the hammer first to get the mainspring out of the way and only fight the recoil spring racking the slide.
Consider the application. Some guns are not manipulated very often, and she might be willing to grit her teeth and pull hard on a gun that otherwise suits her.
That's a good link, I will share it with my wife.0 -
Are you open to revolvers? If so, then go that route. If not, then read on:
Best for carry would be an auto that fires the first round double action, and locks the slide back after the last shot is fired.
First round double action: It should have a de-cocker that allows the first shot to be already in the chamber. No slide jacking.
Slide lock-back: If the shooter has to reload a fresh magazine, then the gun only has to have the slide released by pressing down on the release lever. No slide jacking.
But do your homework, and get an auto that is definately not known for jamming, with good jam-free ammo. Lots to consider, isn't it?
Back to square one: Get a revolver. Best, Joe0 -
Seems like a semiauto is the long way to go if the lady is not well-versed in the dynamics of jam-clearing and has difficulty just operating a semiauto without a jam to begin with. The short way to go is a DA revolver.
I think people should use whatever their abilities give them confidence in using. In a situation, the last thing anyone needs to worry about is if they can make their gun work.0 -
otter6412,
Unless your wife is stuck on a semi auto, a revolver could be a very workable alternative as has been suggested.
However, if she does want a nice semi auto that she can deal with, I'd suggest looking at a Beretta Model 86 in 380 ACP (if you can find a nice one). A good semi auto pistol and very dependable. They have a tip up barrel so the pistol can be loaded without having to hand rack a slide to chamber a cartridge. It can also be loaded by racking the slide if desired.
You might want to check one of these Beretta pistols out. The somewhat bad news is they are a fairly hard to find and are pretty pricey (in my opinion). If I'm not mistaken, they run about $550.00 for a nice used one and slightly more for new in the box.
Just my 2 cents worth.0 -
My wife has a G26 and had trouble operating the slide so I installed some Wolff springs that were 2 lb lighter than stock.
One day while I was at work one of our dogs was raising he77 outside. She looked out the window and saw a copperhead snake. She reached into our gunsafe and grabbed my G22, in which I had installed Wolff springs that were 2 lb HEAVIER than stock.
She operated the slide and killed the copperhead.
When I got home and saw what she'd done I unloaded my G22, handed it to her and told her to rack the slide. She COULDN'T DO IT!
As long as your wife CAN work the slide, even with some difficuly, she'll be ok. With practice she'll get better. If she ever has to do it under stress, she'll have no trouble at all!
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