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No Shootin R-15 .204

owenrd
Hello Everyone:

I am new to this forum. I had a friend recommend it to me. Here is my issue. I just got a new Remington R-15 .204 from a friend that trades guns. It wont shoot better than a six inch group at 100 yrds. At first I thought it was the Bullets, scope or shooter. Ive used Horanady 40 gr. & 32 gr., and Remington 40 gr. & 32 gr. bullets. Ive also tried 3 different high quality scopes and had a buddy of mine who shoots alot more than I do shoot it. Since by Remington's standards I am not the original owner, meaning I didnt purchase it from the FFL dealer I dont qualify for the warranty. I spent quite a bit of money on this gun and would like to get it shooting strait. Can anyone tell me what my options are? Ive thought of taking it to a gunsmith but Im not sure if it will be worth the money. I could use some guidance. Thanks ahead of time for everyone's help.

Ryan
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  • quickmajik
    Welcome to GB's forums

    maybe these suggestions will help you out Ryan.


    load two rounds into the gun one in the chamber, one in the clip. Fire the first round. Eject the second. look at the ejected round beside a fresh round out of the box.. See if you notice anything about the bullet. Like if it looks scratched or the nose is deformed. Or if the bullet is seated to far back into the case.

    If you see any of that either a) there might be something wrong with the bolt, because it should headspace. b) there might something wrong with the chamber.

    If you dont see anything wrong with the bullet:

    Have you cleaned it? Buy some good copper solvent and go to town.



    If that doesnt work, Buy a new .204 bull barrel from DPMS and install it, or have it installed. then break it in properly and treat it with something like kg systems KG2 bore polish after each cleaning.


    I have heard more bad stuff about Remington AR's then just about all of the rest of the good name brands combined.

    I believe the R-15 is made by bushmaster
    The R-10 is made on DPMS lowers and uppers
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  • fordsix
    the remington ar is made by DPMS
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  • bpost
    Welcome to the forum
    FIRST THINGS FIRST;
    (1) Do a proper cleaning of the bore with a strong copper solvent, like Montana Extreme or Butches Bore Shine. That little bore is sensitive to fouling.

    (2) Make sure you don't have muzzle damage, either from improper cleaning or impact. Look at the muzzle crown with a magnifying glass, any damage is too much damage.

    (3) Pick one scope, a known scope of high quality and make sure it is properly mounted. Properly mounted means the base and rings are torqued to the correct specifications.

    (4) Try shooting it again.
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  • Wehrmacht_45
    quote:Originally posted by fordsix
    the remington ar is made by DPMS



    Remington, Bushmaster, and DPMS are all owned by the same entity (Cerberus Capital Management). If you look at the Bushmaster's you can see that the small caliber R-15 rifles are made by Bushmaster, as they use the same handguards and gas blocks, while the bigger bore R-15 rifles are DPMS.

    From Wikipedia

    Firearms - Acquired Bushmaster Firearms, Inc., from Windham, Maine native Dick Dyke for an undisclosed sum in April 2006, and purchased Remington Arms in April 2007. Under Cerberus direction, Bushmaster Firearms acquired Cobb Manufacturing, a well-respected manufacturer of large-caliber tactical rifles in August 2007. Cerberus also acquired DPMS Panther Arms December 14, 2007.[23][24] Remington Arms acquired Marlin Firearms in January 2008.
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  • owenrd
    Thanks guys I will look into this. IF it is the bolt or somthing is wrong with the gun. What are my options besides spending another $500-700 replacing the upper or the barrel. There is a well known gunsmith here in town, would it be worth letting him him look at it?


    I chambered a bullet and then ejected it and looked at the bullet. It did have quite a few scraches on it, but nothing really deap and there where no marks on the brass.

    Ryan
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  • CS8161
    I believe if you still have issues after a good cleaning and inspection as others have suggests, a letter to Remington customer service might be in order. They may want to take a look at it to see if it is within specs.
    Procedd with the cleaning first, get all the copper out of the barrel and mount a good, solid scope, then see what has changed or improved.
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  • quickmajik
    Thanks guys I will look into this. IF it is the bolt or somthing is wrong with the gun. What are my options besides spending another $500-700 replacing the upper or the barrel. There is a well known gunsmith here in town, would it be worth letting him him look at it?

    yes, let him look at it, if non of the suggestions help you.

    A Barrel replacement will be much easier on your wallet,(250.00 or less) then a complete upper replacement. Also by just changeing the barrel You can keep your camo upper and handguards


    I chambered a bullet and then ejected it and looked at the bullet. It did have quite a few scraches on it, but nothing really deap and there where no marks on the brass.

    so when you held it up to another round they where the same length. Sometimes when a rifle cycles during fireing the "bullet" can be driven back into the case, this will truely screw up accuracy.


    Ryan
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  • nononsense
    owenrd,

    As bpost1958 says, 'First things first'.

    The real first thing is to hand it back to your friend and tell him he sold you a piece of junk and you want your money back. He made the original trade or purchase, let him stand the gaff of getting it fixed. That's all there is to this. If he digs in his heels and refuses, he's not the friend you thought he was and you need to stay as far away from him as possible since he sees his personal profit before your friendship.

    If he refuses, read the post by bpost1958 and follow through.

    Are you loading your own cartridges? If yes, you may have found your problem right there. Try some factory as a comparison.

    If all else fails, I personally would write a straightforward letter to Remington detailing out the problem in a succinct and clear manner and suggest that they will want to look at this rifle. If you get an automatic refusal, push it on up the ladder until someone with authority reads it and understands that they are the manufacturer and they have the responsibility to fix the problem.

    Best.
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  • v35
    After the cleaning and installing a scope of proven accuracy,give the barrel the benefit of the doubt and install a free floating handguard. Defer action till you shoot the gun after installing it.
    I can't see spending anything like $500 to change an AR barrel.
    If it comes to that, Olympic Arms used to make superior barrels.
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