M1 experts
Follow up to an earlier post. M1 Grand, what is it?
Stock - well used, white paint numbers attempted removed on right side. Letter P with circle on grip area, left stock has:
S.A.
G.A.W. with box around it, followed by two cross rifles in a circle.
Top sight is: BME - word "left" with arrow.
Lever has "NM" on top.
Back of Receiver: U.S. Rifle, 30 cal M1, Springfield Armory, 31908xx.
Top breach cover: 028287-1W.R.A. (may start with a D, eyes are bad).
Barrel right side: LMR D8535448 10-52 A3 P m (then some type of mark)
The action and barrel appear unfired, absolutly no wear on internal parts or breach area, no sign at all in the chamber that a round was ever loaded. Barrel check with M2 ball bullet shows over 1/8" sticking out, cleaning patch could find nothing but a little dust in the barrel and looks new with the bore light.
Everything except the stock and metal parts for the stock looks like new.
This is from an estate and they are looking to sell it, and I have a shooter looking to buy an M1 (I may buy this myself and sell him mine). Any information would be appreciated.
Stock - well used, white paint numbers attempted removed on right side. Letter P with circle on grip area, left stock has:
S.A.
G.A.W. with box around it, followed by two cross rifles in a circle.
Top sight is: BME - word "left" with arrow.
Lever has "NM" on top.
Back of Receiver: U.S. Rifle, 30 cal M1, Springfield Armory, 31908xx.
Top breach cover: 028287-1W.R.A. (may start with a D, eyes are bad).
Barrel right side: LMR D8535448 10-52 A3 P m (then some type of mark)
The action and barrel appear unfired, absolutly no wear on internal parts or breach area, no sign at all in the chamber that a round was ever loaded. Barrel check with M2 ball bullet shows over 1/8" sticking out, cleaning patch could find nothing but a little dust in the barrel and looks new with the bore light.
Everything except the stock and metal parts for the stock looks like new.
This is from an estate and they are looking to sell it, and I have a shooter looking to buy an M1 (I may buy this myself and sell him mine). Any information would be appreciated.
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The stock is WWII production used from mid 1943 to late 1944 and is correct for your serial number. The rear sight BME is s typical post war sight made by a government contractor. NM means National Match and many of these operating rods were used during post war rebuilds (far more NM operating rods were produced than NM M1 rifles). The bolt is from a Winchester M1 rifle. The LMR barrel was made by a government contractor (Line Materials) which supplied replacement barrels as well as OEM barrels for International Harvester as well as some Harrington and Richardson M1s. This sounds like a pretty typical rebuilt WWII M1. Tens of thousands of these rifles were rebuilt at depots and arsenals all over the country and they are valued solely for shooting and not collecting. LMR has a reputation for making some of the very best of the M1 service barrels so this is a plus, depending on how the barrel gauges for wear. 0 -
The serial number on the USGI Springfield Armory receiver indicates it was made around October 1944, & the SA/GAW would be correct for that vintage. I'm guessing the receiver has been refinished. The LMR barrel was made by the Line Materials Corp, & dates from the Korean War. The rest of the parts came from the parts bin.
No way to tell if it came from DCM or was assembled by someone. LMR barrels are the most accurate USGI barrels, generally with MW=0.5 when new (5/16" of copper jacket showing with the poor man's MW gauge).
It sounds equivalent to the Service Grade rifle currently being sold by CMP for $630.
Neal0 -
quote:The LMR barrel was made by a government contractor (Line Materials) which supplied replacement barrels as well as OEM barrels for International Harvester as well as some Harrington and Richardson M1s.
I believe LMR supplied springfield armory with some barrels as well.
there was a period when S.A. had a batch of bad barrels and they contracted with LMR.
like mark said, the LMR barrels were considered some of the best. your barrel is from 1952.
and the "crossed rifles" are actually cannons, if i remember right.0 -
I'm looking for informational prices on two M1's.
One is an M1 Carbine Inland 8-43 30cal, looks in all but perfect condition, ser# 671040, Blue sky-Arlington VA, two small clips, sling, pocket pouch for clips & 30 round clip. Plenty of pics available as well as other info for a close assessment.
Second is M1 Garand, Springfield Armory, ser# 3523068, Exel-Gardner MA, National Match Slide. Again plenty of pics available, as well as other info for close assessment.
thanks
Craig0 -
First off, drawing number 28287 (the "D" is for Drawing) is the rifle's bolt. A Winchester bolt, if truth be known.
The LMR barrel is not a cheap knockoff. What you have is a rebuilt (by the US gov't most likely) M1 Garand<--that's Garand (with two "a"'s)..some time late Korean War, or soon thereafter, judging by the date on the barrel (October, 1952).
The gun originally rolled off the assembly line in about late '44/early '45 judging by the SerNo on the receiver. To finalize the assessment, pictures are a must. Best, Joe0 -
Typical USGI mixmaster rebuild easily worth $650 as is. The individual parts themselves are worth much more by parting the rifle out. A decent SA/GAW stock is worth between $275-$450 by itself. NM marked oprod $95-$105. WRA bolt $85. LMR barrel $200-$275. USGI hand guards with metal about $65. Now if you just want to enjoy it buy some Greek ammo from the CMP and shoot the heck out of it. Beach 0 -
Thanks to all. I knew you guys would know.
A rebuild would make perfect sense to what I am looking at.
Again, great job to all, and thanks0 -
Well, hell
solved in 7 posts, and not a single photograph. I am depressed0
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