What can you tell me about these scopes?

quickmajik

April 28, 2009 17:40

http://www.countersniperoptics.com/cgistore/store.cgi?page=/new/product.html&setup=1&ida=60&idp=0&his=0&cart_id=2990722.3472


http://www.countersniperoptics.com/cgistore/store.cgi?page=/new/product.html&setup=1&ida=65&idp=0&his=0&cart_id=2990722.3472









Does anyone have one? Any good? I am warry of any scope with a name like this. Sounds like a gimmick.

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  tsr1965

  April 28, 2009 17:55

  quickmajik,
  
  I do agree that sounds gimmicky...just like the Huskemaw Optics. The Huskemaw has a calibrated for load turret that can be bought from a couple mfg's., for some common brand names and models. From what you know about accuracy, you do realize that in the first link for the 1-8 they use a mount that has one point mounting...more like a pivot point in my opinion. Not conductive of high end accuracy. A complete turnoff to their systems. After owning NightForce scopes and shooting a high end S&B, the only two of those type I will own is NightForce and USO.
  
  Best

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  quickmajik

  April 28, 2009 18:06

  I saw that, I looked at all the models and i picked the two that I saw weak points in.
  
  IOR uses 35mm and 40mm tubes on 7 and 8 magnifiers for a reason.

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  babun

  April 29, 2009 14:38

  I would be careful about those scopes. For one, it says contract over runs, but yet it says may have some mounting marks. How can that be??
  On the other it is a frontal plane rectile, how you ever used one of them before?? The cross hairs get larger as the power increases..popular
  in Europe and some snipers here train with them, but you have to get used to it. just my two cents..I was told by my "friend" looking over my shoulder, that I should explain the frontal plane better...soooo here is the text book wording....""The reticle may be located at the front or rear focal plane of the scope. On fixed power scopes there is no significant difference, but on variable power scopes the front plane reticle remains at a constant size compared to the target, while rear plane reticles remain a constant size to the user as the target image grows and shrinks. Front plane reticles are slightly more durable, but most American users prefer that the reticle remain constant as the image changes size, so nearly all modern variable power scopes are rear focal plane designs. European high end optics manufacturers often leave the customer the choice between a front or rear focal plane reticle."" bob

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  quickmajik

  April 29, 2009 16:04

  I'm fine with first focal plane recticles.. I think the ability to more easily use the milling system at any magnification is a big plus.
  
  needing to crank up to 10x or 20x to judge distance can be a handy cap.

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