What cal. is this??
Could any one tell what these are?
The one on the left is a .270 and the one on right is 30-06 for comparison.
Try this...
The one on the left is a .270 and the one on right is 30-06 for comparison.
Try this...
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this is a closer pic of box 0 -
Thanks nononsense for making the pix bigger!
Andy, on the third line I see Gew., What numbers follow? If it's 88, it's a .318 diameter 8mm Mauser, if it's 98, it's .323 diameter 8mm Mauser.
If I remember tomorrow, I have Kent's German 7.9mm Ammunition book at work. It can decypher the whole label.0 -
quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
Thanks nononsense for making the pix bigger!
Andy, on the third line I see Gew., What numbers follow? If it's 88, it's a .318 diameter 8mm Mauser, if it's 98, it's .323 diameter 8mm Mauser.
If I remember tomorrow, I have Kent's German 7.9mm Ammunition book at work. It can decypher the whole label.
Not all ammo made for the Gew 98 is a 323 bore. Early 98s were fitted with a 318 bore until the change was made in 1905 if I recall right.
What is the headstamp on the ammo?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Wehrmacht_45
quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
Thanks nononsense for making the pix bigger!
Andy, on the third line I see Gew., What numbers follow? If it's 88, it's a .318 diameter 8mm Mauser, if it's 98, it's .323 diameter 8mm Mauser.
If I remember tomorrow, I have Kent's German 7.9mm Ammunition book at work. It can decypher the whole label.
Not all ammo made for the Gew 98 is a 323 bore. Early 98s were fitted with a 318 bore until the change was made in 1905 if I recall right.
What is the headstamp on the ammo?
You recall right, but I have never heard of any military Gew 98's that still have a .318 barrel anywhere on the planet. All early rifles were recalled and rebarreled. After the war, some gunsmiths may have used .318 barrels on sporters, but not any arsenals.0 -
Here is a pdf file that has just about everything you want to know about small arms cartridge ID's. Head stamps, color codes, box markings.
Its big, about 200 pages or so, but it is the final word on id'ing old ammo from around the world. bob. http://www.dia.mil/publicaffairs/Foia/smcal_vol1.pdf0 -
This is the wording from box:
Patr. s.S.
P.6.L.34
Nz.Gew. BI. P. (2.2-0,45):Rdf.4.L.31
Patrh.:P.*12.L.34-Gefd.:P.94.L.34
Zdh.:S.K.D.1L.K.
The red lettering is in German, its been a few yrs. since I took German but I think I got it right.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Wehrmacht_45
quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
Thanks nononsense for making the pix bigger!
Andy, on the third line I see Gew., What numbers follow? If it's 88, it's a .318 diameter 8mm Mauser, if it's 98, it's .323 diameter 8mm Mauser.
If I remember tomorrow, I have Kent's German 7.9mm Ammunition book at work. It can decypher the whole label.
Not all ammo made for the Gew 98 is a 323 bore. Early 98s were fitted with a 318 bore until the change was made in 1905 if I recall right.
What is the headstamp on the ammo?
Headstamp is P S* 12 34, not sure if I have them in order each # or letter is across from each other0 -
its 8mm I have some boxes aswell.
dgac0 -
standared german 8mm for the K98 good stuff non reloadable brass cased 0 -
brubacker2008
This is the wording from box:
(1)Patr. s.S.
(2)P.6.L.34
(3)Nz.Gew. BI. P. (2.2-0,45):Rdf.4.L.31
(4)Patrh.:P.*12.L.34-Gefd.:P.94.L.34
(5)Zdh.:S.K.D.1L.K.
1. Identifies the type of bullet Patronen s.S. 'Patronen schwere Spitzgeschoss'
2. Identifies the manufacturer P***, the batch number **, and date 34 as 1934.
3. Identifies the propellant charge Nz.Gew.P 'Nitrozellulosegewehrpulver', the propellant manufacturer , and date 31 '1931'.
4. Identifies the cartridge case type P* '* or P*, manufacturer ***, batch number ** , and date 34 '1934'.
5. Identifies the bullet manufacturer, batch number, bullet components and date. Note: this line would be different on different boxes with different types of bullets.
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