FFL EZ-check instead of a Copy of an FFL.
Hello, Everyone. I am not realy all that new to the forums, I just don't post vary offten. I recently sold a Pistol on the auction side. The Buyer is telling me since I am not an FFL he will only give me his ez-check number. Will this work to sell a handgun out of state, or should I ask for a signed copy of the FFL?
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if you DO NOT HAVE a ffl then yes this is fine, just be sure to ship to the address listed on the ez-check site (I print two copies and use one for the shipping lable). 0 -
I believe the EZ check page specifically prohibits this, and requires a copy of the FFL - email, fax, or signed. Since its the ATF's sight I would assume they know what they require.
As you, as a seller, are in compliance with GB's policy and the law, it would seem that it is up to the buyer to make this work by either providing what you need or paying transfer fee from an FFL near you if you agree to that.0 -
Thanks Mike. I had never heard of doing it this way. I have baught a few things from Non FFL's and my FFL had always sent a copy. I just did't want something coming back on me. Thanks for the quick help. 0 -
Thanks Everyone for the help. It looks like I should go read the ATF website, and make sure just to be on the safe side. 0 -
EZ check is not to be used in lieu of FFL 0 -
Fordsix is correct. You can not substitute an E-Z check validation for an FFL hard-copy (faxed, etc) when an FFL is required.
In your case it is moot, as you don't need an FFL in hand prior to shipping, because your're not a dealer.
Use the E-Z check, however, to make sure the receiver has a legitimate FFL (happened to me), and send to the address that's listed in the ATF website. Best, Joe0 -
does atf allow the ffl copy to be emailed?
I think I read some thing about that but can't remember
what it was.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Winella
I believe the EZ check page specifically prohibits this, and requires a copy of the FFL - email, fax, or signed. Since its the ATF's sight I would assume they know what they require.
As you, as a seller, are in compliance with GB's policy and the law, it would seem that it is up to the buyer to make this work by either providing what you need or paying transfer fee from an FFL near you if you agree to that.
The law says ship to a FFL...it does not say you need a copy. It the BATFE's site approves his number, then it is just as good as.0 -
quote:Originally posted by moonshine
does atf allow the ffl copy to be emailed?
I think I read some thing about that but can't remember
what it was.
Yes, it can be e-mailed, faxed or "snail-mailed".
I ship long guns through the Post Office and my Postmaster won't take it unless I show him a copy of the addressee's FFL so I always take it with me when I ship.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
I ship long guns through the Post Office and my Postmaster won't take it unless I show him a copy of the addressee's FFL so I always take it with me when I ship.[/b]
Same thing happened to me when I last shipped a pistol. The folks at the FedEx depot were adamant about seeing documentation showing that the addressee was a FFL dealer. This EZ Check business would have not worked with them at all. I don't know how onemanmob was intending to ship the pistol? But if it was through either FedEx or UPS, he better check with them about their requirements, i.e. if they will accept this EZ Check info off the web site.0 -
quote:I ship long guns through the Post Office and my Postmaster won't take it unless I show him a copy of the addressee's FFL so I always take it with me when I ship.
There is no such requirement in the Postal regs (Domestic Mail Manual). Would suggest your Postmaster SHOULD read this part- especially the second one. Short barreled shotguns, machineguns, and handguns are not mailable by private citizens.
3.0 Rifles and Shotguns
Although unloaded rifles and shotguns not precluded by 1.1e and 1.2 are mailable, mailers must comply with the Gun Control Act of 1968, Public Law 90-618, 18 USC 921, et seq., and the rules and regulations promulgated thereunder, 27 CFR 178, as well as state and local laws. The mailer may be required by the USPS to establish, by opening the parcel or by written certification, that the gun is unloaded and not precluded by 1.1e. (note- 1.1e is short barreled shotgun)
4.0 Legal Opinions on Mailing Firearms
Postmasters are not authorized to give opinions on the legality of any shipment of rifles or shotguns. Contact the nearest office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms for further advice.0
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