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http://www.firequest.com/catalog/AB225moreifno.html

Regarding the legality and reliablity of this device. . .

1. Is it legal to own/use for sure?
2. How reliable is it overall and has anyone on here ever used one before first-hand?
3. Is it the worth it for the $34.99?
4. Even if it is legal to both own and use, can you empty 30rd magazines in seconds?

I'm looking very forward to what the experts have to say.
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  • Laredo Lefty
    Devices such as that one are legal in most areas. As long as the trigger on the gun has to be pulled for each shot it still remains a SEMI auto.

    You can save the money and learn how to bump-fire the gun if you feel the need to spray bullets real fast.

    I have not used one but if you get the hang of it you can empty a mag very fast.
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  • drobs
    Junk, learn to bump fire.

    I believe there are some videos here.

    www.gunsnet.net/Linx310/whyromanian.htm
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  • shilowar
    I guess the obsession with "auto" fire is because its something we can't readily own....other than wasting expensive ammo it doesn't really serve much purpose....


    if you ask the "experts"...people that serve in elite units like the Rangers, Delta, or SEALs most will probably tell you that "full auto" is fairly useless....

    consistent controlled semi-auto rifle fire is far more effective and suppressive then "spraying" rounds in less controlled manner
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  • beantownshootah
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    I guess the obsession with "auto" fire is because its something we can't readily own....other than wasting expensive ammo it doesn't really serve much purpose....

    if you ask the "experts"...people that serve in elite units like the Rangers, Delta, or SEALs most will probably tell you that "full auto" is fairly useless....

    consistent controlled semi-auto rifle fire is far more effective and suppressive then "spraying" rounds in less controlled manner


    That's my impression as well.

    Full auto fire is intriguing mostly because its unavailable to most shooters.

    In practice its a fairly good way to burn a lot of expensive ammo really quickly, make a lot of noise, and not hit anything.

    Even in a military context, most of the time its not helpful for infantry, which is one of the big reasons the standard M4 rifle has a 3-round burst fire option, instead of true full-auto.

    I can think of two scenarios where full auto fire actually *IS* useful.

    First one is from a TRUE machine gun (ie not a rifle), where you want to lay down streams of fire against one target (ie to destroy it), or want to engage multiple grouped or moving opponents, etc. But I'm really talking dozens to hundreds of rounds from a belt-fed gun here, not one guy with a rifle.

    Next one (and this is a little more appropriate for the average shooter), is from a SUB-machine gun.

    From a small gun that is firing relatively low-power low-recoil pistol rounds, burst fire is a way of both increasing hit probability at close range, and also obtaining multiple hits, to increase potential damage.

    As an example, if you are shooting at someone from 30-40 yds away with an Uzi, burst fire could be good.

    Edit:
    To answer the question, I haven't tried nor seen this particular device in action, but yes, in general these sorts of devices are legal and do work to give you full-auto type rate of fire from an ordinary semi-automatic gun.

    The idea is just that they help you pull the trigger faster.

    This particular one looks like it makes "bump" fire easier.

    "Bump" fire is a trick where by pulling forward on the gun, with your finger on the trigger, you can use the recoil cycle of a shot to cause you to pull the trigger again. The effect is fast gun cycling like full auto fire.

    For legal purposes, as long as the gun only fires one shot per trigger pull, its legal per *federal* law. (I can't speak to State or local law, that may specifically restrict these sorts of devices).

    Whether or not its worth $35 is up to you. Personally, since I'm not interested in that rate of fire, its not to me, but I don't think the price is unreasonable if it does what it claims.

    In absolute terms, $35 isn't that much money. IE, at todays prices two mags of .223 ammo cost nearly $35! If you can't afford the $35 to try this, how are you going to afford full auto fire?
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