FN Dutch model 1949 ?
I was wondering if anyone out there knows of the serial number ranges, and know extant serial numbers (i.e., lowest number known) on these little canons. Mine is a Gendarm's of Amsterdam gun which is marked on the reciever rail. All numbers match, and it is a REALLY low number. Wondering if what I have is truely special, or since it is post war would be less interesting to Mauser collectors? I found one about 50 digits higher a few years back and the funny thing is it went through what appears to be a local rearsenaling, IDENTICAL to mine. Same replaced upper butt stock in place with 2 dowel rods, "1 x "2 inch toe replacement piece. That one was in a bit better cosmetic condition than mine, but mechanically mine is really nice, and the bore is at least an 8 of 10...this I would credit to the frightening proposition of firing 8mm full power ammo in a gun with a 19 inch barrel. My guess is these were used to batter down doors, and carried lots, though fired little. Any input appreciated. Hope I haven't asked this before...I've been gone a while from the forum, and can't recall if I brought this up previously or not. Any input appreciated, thanks in advance, Bill
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Try Robert Ball's, Mauser Rifle Book. It's up to about 4th Edition now, might be some serial number information in it.
Years back I had one of the Dutch Carbines, It had the Queens Cypher,(Crest) on it, rather then any sort of police markings. I did take it to the range once, really unpleasant shooting it with standard 8mm Mauser ammo. I just couldn't see it being used a a police gun loaded with full power ammo. Between the muzzle blast/fireball, and over penetration with military ball ammo, never seemed practical as a police firearm.
I wondered if it was possible, if they used specially loaded "guard" ammo? I've loaded a bunch of military rifle cartridges in the past, with small amounts of fast burning powder. Using the standard ball military bullets, it's easy to get 1700 fps with very good accuracy. To my mind this would be the kind of cartridge, those Dutch Carbines should have been loaded with.0 -
Hi Rufe...I did not make it clear, but the top of the reciever ring is a Queen Juliana crest, and the SIDE RAIL has the police markings on it. Balls book does not (nor does Olsons) list the serial numbers known to still exist. I am wondering, in a nutshell, if anyone knows of a lower serial number than mine. It is single digit...really low single digit. I suppose the FN museum might have one lower, but I am completely unsure as to the location of such a collection if one exists. Have been looking on and off for a few years trying to find such a place, but to no avail.
The low powered guards ammo is a good theory! As mentioned, overpenetraiton would be a huge issue. Would likely insure a car door was punched nicely though. Amsterdam is a little crowded (along with most of the lowland countries) and most of the inhabitants are probably too stoned to think quickly enough to avoid becomming a backstop! I did once load down some 175 grain Sierra's to around 2000 fps and they were STILL terrible. Plenty accurate though, as you mentioned!0 -
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You might have more luck on the Military Mauser Rifle forum, on the Gunboards site, at this link.
http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=50
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