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Winchester pre 64 model 70 ?????

GuvamintCheese
Hey Bert, old-colts, kimi, or other m70 fans I bought this old model 70 (1st year gun) thinking the rear bridge was tapped for this scope [xx(], but now Im sure it was. Are you guys familiar with this type of redfield mount? I havnt recieved the gun yet, but the old style (type I) reciever on the M70 has a opening right where I thought the bridge would be drilled. Looking at page 125 of Rule's book, it looks like this scope mount fit right into the opening without drilling? Is this true? Thanks.

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  • snickers
    Are you saying that the base is mounted in the stripper clip slot on the rear and the factory holes on the front??????????
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  • GuvamintCheese
    quote:Originally posted by snickers
    Are you saying that the base is mounted in the stripper clip slot on the rear and the factory holes on the front??????????
    I am asking if its mounted in the stripper clip slot. Person I bought it from is clueless about guns, and It sure doesnt look like there is enough meat back there to drill it. I am hoping that it hasnt been drilled.
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  • snickers
    From the second picture it looks like there is enough for a screw. The screw hole on the rear of the base is real close to the edge. If it does mount in that stripper clip slot I would have thought we would have seen one before now. Nice looking rifle though.
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  • GuvamintCheese
    quote:Originally posted by snickers
    From the second picture it looks like there is enough for a screw. The screw hole on the rear of the base is real close to the edge. If it does mount in that stripper clip slot I would have thought we would have seen one before now. Nice looking rifle though.
    I read (rule's) that there were 2 companies that made scope mounts for the original type 1 model 70 recievers, redfield and another co. Why would Winchester just drill and tap the front bridge for a scope mount if there were'nt companies making a mount that fit it. I hope that this is one of them!
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  • He Dog
    Cartod I wonder if the mounts Rule mentions could have used the factory tapped holes at the front and the rear iron sight slot like the Stith mounts for model 99s do.

    I do hope it is original and not bored and tapped after market![:0]
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  • kimi
    I'm not very familiar with model 70's, but I'm thinking along the line of He Dog about the front of the mount using the existing screw holes and the rear of the mount having been machined to fit into slots or grooves on the rifles receiver. Some of the early sniper mounts fit like this in the rear of the receiver. In the mid 1930s Redfiled did make the Redfield Junior Scope Mount, and it could be used on Winchester Model 70. This was also a period when Winchester would scope rifles for their customers.

    Edit: You're welcome cartod. I have no idea about how one might tell if it would be factory drilled and tapped. Maybe He Dog, Bert, or someone else would know though.
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  • GuvamintCheese
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    I'm not very familiar with model 70's, but I'm thinking along the line of He Dog about the front of the mount using the existing screw holes and the rear of the mount having been machined to fit into slots or grooves on the rifles receiver. Some of the early sniper mounts fit like this in the rear of the receiver. In the mid 1930s Redfiled did make the Redfield Junior Scope Mount, and it could be used on Winchester Model 70. This was also a period when Winchester would scope rifles for their customers.
    thanks Kimi, I think its drilled. I do remember rule metioning the redfield jr. I wonder if there is a way to determine weather or not its a factory drill and tap? thanks...
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  • He Dog
    I guess I would have to wonder why the front would be drilled and tapped at the factory and not the back. My guess would be it is drill and that it was done at the factory. I think you will know if it is factory work when you pull the scope mount.
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  • CapnMidnight
    It's drilled.
    W.D.
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  • tsr1965
    cartod....

    Did you ddo a search on that redfield mount? If you were able to find instructions for it, it could very well tell you how it was mounted. Just by the looks, there could have been a second piece that fit into the stripper clip slot, that expanded to grip the slot when the screw was installed...like an internal claw mount.

    Best
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  • snickers
    Scope mounts for the Pre War receiver were available from several manufactures. They used the front bridge factory drill and tap along with either a front mount in the rear sight boss or a rear mount on the side of the receiver. I don't think it would be possible to find any documentation on a factory drill and tap for the rear bridge on a rifle made before 1946.
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