7.62.51 and .308
Am wondering is there a differance with these two,say I buy some 7.62.51 can I shoot that in my rem. 788 .308.
And I see .308 ammo for sale like Sellers and Ballot is this standard .308 or is it nato 7.62.51 thanks
And I see .308 ammo for sale like Sellers and Ballot is this standard .308 or is it nato 7.62.51 thanks
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You should be able to shoot 7.62 NATO in a .308. The reverse is not always true. If S&B is labeled .308 Winchester, that's what it is. Slight difference in the chamber/leade of a 7.62 X 51, and it is loaded lighter than .308. Military brass is thicker, reducing case volume. If NATO brass is reloaded with a .308 load data, pressures are higher due to smaller case volume.
And you will have someone tell you it does not matter, they have shot 7.62 in their .308. They probably have- does not mean it is a wise thing to do.0 -
11br, I think you got your last statement crossed.
The 7.62X51 NATO round can be fired in a .308 gun. It has a specific pressure loading, burn rate, OAL, etc. .308 winchester runs the gamut from saboted accelerator rounds to big 200 grain plus bullets to light magnums. So no, you can't fire a 308 winchester in a NATO gun for sure safely.
One could regard the NATO round as a subset of the .308 family but not the other way around.
Sort of like all M2 ball is safe in all 30-06 guns, but not all 30-06 is safe in guns designed for M2 ball (Garands in particular).0 -
Yes, your Remington should be able to shoot the NATO 7.62x51 ammo safely. 0 -
Problem is not at the chamber. It's at the reciprocating mechanism in [military] semi-autos. Use anything you want in a bolt rifle, but only 7.62 NATO in a military designed semi-auto. An M1A can take .308 chamber pressures, but the gas system takes a beating with .308 hunting type ammo. Winchester white box excepted. It's ok in military semi-autos.
"But I've used .308 in my M1A with no problems!"<--When you hear that statement, it's because the shooter/owner can't see the shortened service life the higher pressure rounds are causing to the recoil/gas system down the road. Akin to using a 2lb sledge, and switching to a 3lb sledge. Best, Joe0 -
If your rifle shoots .308, it will shoot 7.62! 0 -
so then my next question is I found some nato 7.62.51 battle packs on stripper clips are there any numbers,head stamps etc. that I need to look at/for and is some stuff better than others thanks 0 -
quote:got your last statement crossed.
Yep- I did. Sorry- fingers got ahead of da brain.0 -
quote:Originally posted by givette
Problem is not at the chamber. It's at the reciprocating mechanism in [military] semi-autos. Use anything you want in a bolt rifle, but only 7.62 NATO in a military designed semi-auto. An M1A can take .308 chamber pressures, but the gas system takes a beating with .308 hunting type ammo. Winchester white box excepted. It's ok in military semi-autos.
"But I've used .308 in my M1A with no problems!"<--When you hear that statement, it's because the shooter/owner can't see the shortened service life the higher pressure rounds are causing to the recoil/gas system down the road. Akin to using a 2lb sledge, and switching to a 3lb sledge. Best, Joe
Very well put.0 -
No. As long as they are .308 or 7.62 they are fine. Reloading the military brass may be a little tougher. 0
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